"BY YOUR WORDS"
QUOTES FROM THIRD WAVE LEADERS
Here is a list of quotes from leaders in the Third Wave and "counterfeit" revival movements. This page will provide you the documented evidence you need to determine whether or not the people listed on this page are teaching false doctrine and/or making false prophesies.
This page includes quotes from: A.A. Allen, John Arnott, John Avanzini, William Branham, Paul Cain, Charles Capps, Morris Cerullo, Paul Yonggi Cho, Randy Clark, Jack Coe, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Crouch, Jack Deere, Kenneth Hagin, Marilyn Hickey, Steve Hill, Benny Hinn, Rodney Howard-Browne, Rick Joyner, Essek Kenyon, John Kilpatrick, Kathryn Kuhlman, Aimee Semple McPherson, Earl Paulk, Peter Popoff, Fred Price, Oral Roberts, Pat Robertson, John Scotland, Robert Tilton, and John Wimber. Click on their name to go to their quotes. They are arranged in alphabetical order.
The Bible is clear about listening to false teachers:
2 Peter 2:1-3
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there
will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive
heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift
destruction on themselves.
2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
1 Timothy 6:3-12
3 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to
the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4 he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5 and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it.
8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.
9 People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction.
10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.
12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
2 Timothy 4:3-5
3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
5 But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.
It is also clear about false prophets:
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have
not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other
gods, must be put to death.
21 You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?"
22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
16 This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what
the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They
speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
17 They keep saying to those who despise me, `The LORD says: You will have peace.' And to all who follow the stubbornness of their hearts they say, `No harm will come to you.'
18 But which of them has stood in the council of the LORD to see or to hear his word? Who has listened and heard his word?
1 The word of the LORD came to me:
2 "Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination: `Hear the word of the LORD!
3 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!
4 Your prophets, O Israel, are like jackals among ruins.
5 You have not gone up to the breaks in the wall to repair it for the house of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of the LORD.
6 Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. They say, "The LORD declares", when the LORD has not sent them; yet they expect their words to be fulfilled.
7 Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, "The LORD declares", though I have not spoken?
8 "`Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because of your false words and lying visions, I am against you, declares the Sovereign LORD.
9 My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of the house of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.
10 "`Because they lead my people astray, saying, "Peace", when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,
11 therefore tell those who cover it with whitewash that it is going to fall. Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down, and violent winds will burst forth.
12 When the wall collapses, will people not ask you, "Where is the whitewash you covered it with?"
13 "`Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury.
14 I will tear down the wall you have covered with whitewash and will level it to the ground so that its foundation will be laid bare. When it falls, you will be destroyed in it; and you will know that I am the LORD.
15 So I will spend my wrath against the wall and against those who covered it with whitewash. I will say to you, "The wall is gone and so are those who whitewashed it,
16 those prophets of Israel who prophesied to Jerusalem and saw visions of peace for her when there was no peace, declares the Sovereign LORD."'
17 "Now, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people who prophesy out of their own imagination. Prophesy against them
18 and say, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Woe to the women who sew magic charms on all their wrists and make veils of various lengths for their heads in order to ensnare people. Will you ensnare the lives of my people but preserve your own?
19 You have profaned me among my people for a few handfuls of barley and scraps of bread. By lying to my people, who listen to lies, you have killed those who should not have died and have spared those who should not live.
20 "`Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against your magic charms with which you ensnare people like birds and I will tear them from your arms; I will set free the people that you ensnare like birds.
21 I will tear off your veils and save my people from your hands, and they will no longer fall prey to your power. Then you will know that I am the LORD.
22 Because you disheartened the righteous with your lies, when I had brought them no grief, and because you encouraged the wicked not to turn from their evil ways and so save their lives, 23 therefore you will no longer see false visions or practice divination. I will save my people from your hands. And then you will know that I am the LORD.'"
False teachers can repent of their false teaching and change. If they do, the church should forgive them and restore them if they remain in sound doctrine. If their apologies are hollow and deceitful and they persist in teaching false doctrine, they must come under church discipline as detailed in 1 Cor. 5, Eph 5:6-14 and Matt. 18:15-17. We must try them (I John 4: 1), we must rebuke them (Titus 1:13), we must have no fellowship with them if they do not repent (Eph. 5:11), we must withdraw from them (2 Thes. 3:6), we must separate from them (2 Cor. 6:17), we must turn away from them (2 Tim 3:5,7), we must mark them and avoid them (Rom. 16:17), we must not receive them into our house (2 John 10). We are to reject heretics (Titus 3:10).
If they are false prophets making false or inaccurate prophesies of the future, however, that is a matter between them and God. The church is to ignore their prophesies from that point on. They should no longer be allowed to prophesy in the church, in my opinion. They should come under church discipline as detailed in 1 Cor. 5, Eph 5:6-14 and Matt. 18:15-17. If they refrain from prophesy but teach false doctrine, the discipline process should start all over again.
The quotes on this page are provided with the message, tape, book or article from which they were taken and the date whenever possible. If that information is not available, the source from which the quote was taken, such as a commentary or apologetic article or book, will be given. It is hoped that this will be a helpful resource -- to those who take their stand and make their standard God's Word and desire to remain in sound doctrine.
1 Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work, he must be blameless--not
overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent,
not pursuing dishonest gain.
2 Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined.
3 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
1 You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
We will continue to add to this document as new questionable statements are made or published. Quotes from the individuals below are by no means exhaustive. Every effort has been made to give accurate quotes, not take them out of context, and to ensure that the quotes reflect the teachings, preaching or prophesy of the individual listed. If and when any of the people who made these statements recant them and demonstrate that they no longer believe or teach these things over a period of time, those quotes will be removed from this page.
A. A. ALLEN
Faith healer (deceased)
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A. A. Allen "scammed" his followers by asserting that he could command God to "turn dollar bills into twenties." (A. A. Allen, The Secret to Scriptural Financial Success (Miracle Valley, AZ: A. A. Allen Publications, 1953); quoted in Harrell, 75)
Allen was also known to have urged his followers to send for his "prayer cloths anointed with the Miracle Oil" (A. A. Allen, "Miracle Oil Flows at Camp Meeting," Miracle Magazine, June 1967, 6-7; quoted in Harrell, 200)
Allen offered "Miracle tent shavings" as points of contact for personal miracles. (Reported in "New Revival Tent Dedicated in Philadelphia," Miracle Magazine, September 1967, 15; quoted in Harrell, 200)
Allen even "launched a brief 'raise the dead' program." Of course, it died.(Reported in "New Revival Tent Dedicated in Philadelphia," Miracle Magazine, September 1967, 15; quoted in Harrell, 199)
Allen told adherents that God had given him "a new anointing and a new power to lay hands on the believers who gave $100.00 towards the support of our missionary outreach and bestow upon each of them POWER TO GET WEALTH." (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing David Edwin Harrell, Jr., "All Things Are Possible: The Healing and Charismatic Revivals in Modern America" (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1975), 200)
"Of course some of you do not believe this. Listen, you old skeptic, you don't have to believe it, because it doesn't have to happen to you. But it had to happen to me. I'll tell you why. I decreed a thing ... God said "Thou shall decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee ... " I believe I can command God to perform a miracle for you financially. When you do, God can turn dollar bills into twenties." (David Edwin Harrell, Jr., "All Things Are Possible: The Healing and Charismatic Revivals in Modern America" (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1975), 75)
What A.A. Allen was doing bothered authorities of the Assemblies of God. Unlike the leaders of today's Counterfeit Revival, they were embarrassed by such outlandish claims and outrageous conduct. Thus, when Allen, who is extolled today by Benny Hinn as a "great man of God", was arrested for drunk driving during a Tennessee revival in 1955, the first of many alcohol-related experiences for Allen, the leadership of the Assemblies of God had reached its limit. (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing Michale Moriarity, "The New Charismatics" (grand Rapids, MIC: Zondervan, 1992), 35)
At the entrance to Miracle Valley (A.A.Allen's 1,280 acre community) was a huge sign that made it plain just what was going on in that neck of the desert. In red and gold, it proclaimed: A.A.ALLEN REVIVALS, INC., MIRACLE VALLEY, ARIZONA. The Blind to See. The Deaf to Hear. The Lame To Walk. SIGNS. GIFTS. WONDERS. ... (A.A. Allen's) Miracle Magazine, a monthly publication with a circulation of 350,000 was produced at Miracle Valley. Allen was very careful to publish a disclaimer concerning the wild claims of healing that appeared in that periodical, sent in by enthusiastic "healees". ... "Utmost care has been taken to assure the accuracy of all testimonies before publication and A.A. Allen Revivals, Inc. and "Miracle Magazine" assume no legal responsibility for the veracity of any such report, nor do they accept responsibility as to the degree or permanence of reported healings, deliverances or miracles ..." (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.83-85)
A physician from the nearby town of Sierra Vista, Dr. Kenneth A Dregseth, told an interviewer: "I have seen no miracles. In fact, I've had to run diabetics to the hospital when they've stopped taking their insulin, believing they had been cured in Miracle Valley." (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.87)
A.A. Allen dogmatically claimed that he could raise people from the dead. He actually launched a "raise the dead" campaign in the mid-sixties. Thankfully it died when his disciples refused to bury their departed, and their departed refused to come back from the dead. (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing Michale Moriarity, "The New Charismatics" (grand Rapids, MIC: Zondervan, 1992), 2 and David Edwin Harrell, Jr., "All Things Are Possible: The Healing and Charismatic Revivals in Modern America" (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1975), 199)
Allen was eventually kicked out of the Assemblies of God denomination when he jumped bail after being arrested for drunk driving. (Reported in "New Revival Tent Dedicated in Philadelphia," Miracle Magazine, September 1967, 15; quoted in Harrell, 70-71)
On June 14, 1970, listeners in the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Philippines were hearing a recorded message from A. A. Allen on his radio program saying: "This is Brother Allen in person. Numbers of friends of mine have been inquiring about reports they have heard concerning me that are not true. People as well as some preachers from pulpits are announcing that I am dead. Do I sound like a dead man? My friends, I am not even sick! Only a moment ago I made a reservation to fly into our current campaign. I'll see you there and make the devil a liar." At that moment, at the Jack Tar Hotel in San Francisco, police were removing A. A. Allen's body from a room strewn with pills and empty liquor bottles. The man who had once said that "the beer bottle and gin bucket" should have been on his family coat of arms was dead at 59 from what was said to be a heart attack but was in reality liver failure brought about by acute alcoholism. (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.88)
In 1970 Allen died from what "news accounts report [as] sclerosis of the liver." (Reported in "New Revival Tent Dedicated in Philadelphia," Miracle Magazine, September 1967, 15; quoted in Harrell, 202) One writer describes Allen's cause of death as "cirrhosis" of the liver (see Gary L. Ward, "Allen, Asa Alonzo," in J. Gordon Melton, Religious Leaders of America [Detroit: Gale Research, 1991], 9)
Head pastor of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship where the "Toronto Blessing" originated.
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"What happens is, there's a transference of His anointing where, not only do you see it, not only do you experience it for yourself, but you're going to take it home to your people." (John Arnott, Pastor of the Toronto Airport Fellowship, pastor's Meeting, October 19, 1994)
"Another thing that hinders (receiving the Holy Spirit or anointing) is people pray all the time." (John Arnott, at Holy Trinity Brompton, England, February 14, 1995)
"Yes, Lord, we're going to go for it, we're gonna try to do our part to bring the kingdom of God here...and wouldn't it be wonderful if the Lord would start to move in power and restore the church to its proper place and make us the head and not the tail?" (John Arnott, TACF, 10/19/94)
John Arnott and his wife gave approval to a woman's report of a divine message from Jesus that she should leave her husband because he was like a stone around her neck. (A Memoir Of "The Vineyard" Cheryl Thomson, 1994)
Don't "even entertain the thought that (you) might get a counterfeit." (John Arnott, TACF, 12/16/94, audiotape)
Controlling emotions does not facilitate the "anointing". This dilemma is solved, Arnott says, if he and the other leaders "break those controls off of people and boom, they'll take it just like that." (John Arnott, Discovery Church, Orlando, FL, 1/29/95, audiotape, commentary from Counterfiet Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, 1997)
Jesus said "Go pray for Sarah, your friend, I'm going to heal her." To enthusiastic applause, Arnott continues, "that girl, totally incapacitated, paralyzed and blind, after two and a half hours of soaking prayer, got up seeing." Sadly, however, Arnott's story plays fast and loose with the truth ... Sarah was not totally incapacitated, paralyzed and blind; Sarah Lilliman's doctors had diagnosed significant psychosomatic emotional problems underlying he physical problems; Jesus did not heal Lilliman as He supposedly promised her friend He would do and when Arnott's associate (who allegedly documented the case) was interviewed, he confessed that he have not done any investigation .. Today, despite the broad circulation of this story by Arnott and his associates as evidence of God's power in the Toronto "Blessing", Sarah Lilliman is still, as before, legally blind. (John Arnott, "Valuing the Anointing", TACF, 10/15/94, audiotape, commentary from Counterfiet Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, 1997)
Of the frightening manifestations in evidence in the Toronto "Blessing" John Arnott says the problem is that we have been conditioned to believe "that the Holy Spirit's a gentleman" who would never do anything "rough or impolite". That, says Arnott, is simply "not true!" (John Arnott, Discovery Church, Orlando, FL, 1/29/95, audiotape, commentary from Counterfiet Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, 1997)
"If you're going to be concerned about deception, then please be concerned about the greatest deception that there is, and the greatest deception of all, in my opinion, is not to fall for teachings of a false prophet ... in my opinion the greatest deception of all is to have a move of God come through and you not recognize it." (John Arnott, "Catch The Fire," Midland and Wales, UK, 2/2/96, audiotape)
It's always revealing, the attitudes people have about critical thinking. A common problem with leadership today is their refusal to criticize or judge the false. This is a tragedy for we need that kind of leadership more now than ever! A prime example is John Hinckle's prophecy that on Thursday, June 9th, the Lord would rip all evil off the face of the earth. That "prophecy" was later spiritualized and revised to say that the "spiritual vail of darkness would be torn, allowing people to see the light!" The Kansas City Prophets and others allegedly had received "words from God" to the effect that for New Testament times, the standard for prophets was different than Deut 18. According to them, a "prophet" can be 40% inaccurate and still be considered valid! Unfortunately, thanks to people like John Wimber, their teachings have been widely accepted. You can see this lax view of prophetic standards in this Arnott observation! This quote may well have been said before June 9th. [Arnott] "People get funny when things like this happen...June 9th, there was a prophecy given by a reputable man,...that the Lord would tear open the vail, the shroud of darkness that is over the earth, that is blinding the earth, and as He tore the vail of the temple when Jesus arose, now He's going to tear open the heavens and allow the glory of God to come down...I really hope it comes true...I know that He's up to something...Don't get too excited about dates, sometimes prophetic people are right about the event, but wrong about the date." (Toronto Leaders Speak for Themselves, Bob Hunter, 1997)
"We have had word after word about "get ready, cause you're just on the hors d'oeuvres right now," but, the power is coming. We've had a word that said, you know, "I'm just going easy on you now with this kind of stuff so you can kind of get used to me and acclimatize, because with the real power shows up I don't want you to be terrified!" (John Arnott, Receiving the Spirit's Power)
"I finally start to ask Carol, "Honey, what do you feel?" (Carol), "Oh, it's just wonderful." (Arnott), 'Well, help me," you know, and so she says, "Now, just tune in," and so I'd be tuned in and I'm there, going like this,...and maybe I'd even start weaving a little bit, and I'm thinking "Lord, do I feel something on my hands or am I just making this up? Is there something here or am I so wanting this?"...And Carol would say, "No, no, I can feel Him going in, I can feel Him going in, Just keep focused!" You know and then...she'd say, "Oops, where did you go?" I'd say, "What do you mean?" She'd say, "I feel it coming back on me, where did you go?" And I would realize my mind had drifted off again someplace." (John Arnott, Receiving the Spirit's Power)
"Don't react by even who's praying, I get so tired of people saying, "Be careful who's praying for you now, somebody might lay hands on you that's not really free, and you might get something you didn't bargain for" [crowd laughs]. Listen, you know what Jesus did? He'd walk right up to a leper and lay hands on him, He wasn't afraid of getting leprosy!" John Arnott also added: "Don't worry about who's praying for you, my goodness, there's not a perfect person praying for people on the face of the earth!" (Toronto Leaders Speak for Themselves, Bob Hunter, 1997)
Arnott says about manifestation expectations: "People ask us all the time, "What do you feel?" and that's a valid question. At first, it's almost imperceptible, but you think your hands are feeling a little heavier, this is my experience, and as you love Him, and stay tuned to that and say, "Oh, Lord, more of your presence," and it gets heavier and they begin to tingle, kind of, sort of like electricity and it can flow all up and down your arms and all over your face and up and down your legs and when it really increases, it's like you're being electrocuted, almost." The Bible says, however" Jude 19-20 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost. James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. (Toronto Leaders Speak for Themselves, Bob Hunter, 1997)
"I spoke Sunday night on the topic A Second Wave is Coming. I gave a call for any who were under the fear of deception by critics, etc., and about 100 responded, repenting for allowing their child-like trust in God to be stolen." (Letter, 2/26/97 from Christchurch, TACF, Road Warriors Archive)
I attended a "revival" meeting last night at Lake Boren Christian Center A/G near Renton, WA (near Seattle) where John Arnott was the featured speaker. At this meeting Arnott introduced a "new anointing" he calls the "Sword of the Lord." With this "anointing" comes a new boldness, a "new power". He also called it the "Warrior Anointing." It promises "to bring deliverance from your enemies." The visible effects of receiving this "anointing" include roaring, shouting and grasping the hands above the head, then swinging them up and down as if one was actually holding a sword and attacking an enemy. Arnott cautioned the crowd not to "take the sword if you have any secret sin because that sword may turn on you." After explaining all this, most of the 600+ people attending lined up to receive this new "anointing" from John Arnott as he grabbed upraised hands and said, "Receive the sword." With this "anointed" touch most of the people fell down and began moving their arms back and forth (as described earlier) while on the floor. Some stood and repeated this same movement. One man I observed actually hit a woman in the side with his "sword." (John Arnott, Lake Boren Christian Center A/G, D.V.H. in an e-mail on 07/24/97 11:42 AM)
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Jesus had an expensive ministry. (John Avanzini, Praise the Lord (TBN), 9/15/88)
That cross proved a 3-fold dimension of redemption. (John Avanzini, Praise the Lord (TBN), 9/15/88)
30, 60, 100 fold (John Avanzini, Believer's Voice of Victory, (TBN) 3/7/91)
Jesus had a nice house, a big house. (John Avanzini, Believer's Voice of Victory, (TBN) 1/20/91)
Jesus wore designer clothes. (John Avanzini, Believer's Voice of Victory, (TBN) 1/20/91)
Paul had the kind of money that could stop up justice. (John Avanzini, Believer's Voice of Victory, (TBN) 1/20/91)
If you have a treasurer, that means you have a lot of money. (John Avanzini, Praise the Lord (TBN), 9/15/88)
Jesus was handling big money. (John Avanzini, Praise the Lord (TBN), 9/15/88)
"[The Spirit of God]...declared in the earth today what the eternal purpose of God has been through the ages...that He is duplicating Himself in the earth" (John Avanzini, "The End Time Manifestation of the Sons of God," Morris Cerullo World Evangelism tape).
"Jesus had a nice big house", "Jesus wore designer clothes" (John Avanzini, "Believer's Voice of Victory" broadcast on TBN, recorded 1/20/91)
"Jesus was handling big money" (John Avanzini, "Praise the Lord" broadcast on TBN, recorded 9/15/88)
Faith healer and stated mentor for many of the people on this page. (deceased)
William Branham said the doctrine of the Trinity is "a doctrine of demons" (The Toronto Blessing, Stephen Sizer, 1990)
William Branham said that Eve's sin involved sexual relations with the serpent, but the "seed of God" were Branham's followers, otherwise known as "the Bride" or "the New Breed" (The Toronto Blessing, Stephen Sizer, 1990)
"Now my precious brothers - I know this is a tape also. Now don't get excited. Let me say this with Godly love. The hours approached where I can't hold still on these things no more... Trinitarianism is of the devil. I tell you that - Thus saith the Lord." (William Branham, Footprints on the Sands of Time: The autobiography of William Marrion Branham, Part Two (Jeffersonville, IN: Spoken Word Publications, 1975), 606-7.)
"Why don't you examine your baptism of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and that false 'trinity' it's so-called..." (William Braham, "Revelation Chapter Four #3 (Throne of Mercy and Judgment)" (Voice of God Recordings, Inc., 1961, audio tape #61-0108, side 2).
The angel spoke to William Branham saying: "Fear not. I am sent from the presence of Almighty God to tell you that your particular life and your misunderstood ways have been to indicate that God has sent you to take a gift of divine healing to the people of the world. If you will be sincere, and can get the people to believe you, nothing shall stand before your prayer, not even cancer." (Harrell, All Things Are Possible, 28)
William Branham falsely prophesied: "that by 1977 all denominations would be consumed by the World Council of Churches under the control of the Roman Catholics, that the rapture would take place, and that the world would be destroyed." (Burgess and McGee, Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, 96)
William Branham insisted that "believers baptized by a Trinitarian formula must be rebaptized in the name of Jesus only." (Burgess and McGee, Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, 95-96)
Branham explained, "...not one place in the Bible is trinity ever mentioned...It's Catholic error and you Protestants bow to it" (William Branham, Conduct, Order, Doctrine Q and A, p. 182)
"Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is offices of one God. He was the Father; He was the Son; He is the Holy Ghost. It's three offices or three dispensations,..." (William Branham, Conduct, Order, Doctrine Q and A, p. 392). (This view of the Godhead is called Modalism and has been held to be heretical by both Catholic and Protestant churches.)
"Here is what actually happened in the Garden of Eden. The Word says that Eve was beguiled by the serpent. She was actually seduced by the serpent. He was as close to being a human that his seed could, and did mingle with that of the woman and cause her to conceive" (William Branham, The Original Sin, pp. 2, 3)
"Now, I'm just your brother, by the grace of God. But when the Angel of the Lord moves down, it becomes then a Voice of God to you...But I am God's Voice to you... Now, see, I can say nothing in myself. But what He shows me" (William Branham, Footprints On The Sands Of Time, p. 214)
When Branham was baptizing 130 converts in the Ohio River, (allegedly) a heavenly light, like a blazing star, appeared above him just as he was about to baptize the seventeenth person ... it has also been reported that a voice spoke from within the light, saying, "As John the Baptist was sent to forerun the first coming of the Lord, so you are sent to forerun His second coming..."(The Enigma Of William Branham)
By the 1960's, Branham had clearly become convinced that he was the end-times "Elijah" and the true "Messenger of the Covenant". (The Enigma Of William Branham)
It was (later in his ministry) that Branham began to gradually withdraw into his own little circle, where he had an adoring and loyal following. (Essentially this circle was made up of "Oneness" or 'Jesus-Only' Pentecostals). And instead of his previous unwillingness to speak about contentious or divisive 'minor' issues, he now gradually began to emphasize such things more and more in his preaching. Slowly, these teachings became ever-more alarming and extreme. (The Enigma Of William Branham)
Branham taught that the Word of God was given in three forms, the zodiac, the Egyptian pyramids, and the written scripture.(Al Dager, Vengeance is Ours, Sword, Page 59)
To date, William Branham's body is still in the grave. But, his occult methodology of healing was picked up by hundreds of pastors and teachers upon whom he had laid his hands and who have traded on it to a greater or lesser degree. (Al Dager, Vengeance is Ours, Sword)
Years ago (William Branham) told his interpreter, Pastor Ruff, "If my angel does not give the sign, I cannot heal." Ruff noticed several features of spiritism in the work of Branham, and therefore stopped working with him. These "angels" of whom (Harry) Edwards and Branham spoke are evil spirits masquerading as angels of light. As in many areas of the occult, we are here reminded again that the devil appears as an angel of light (2 Cor. 11:14) Another evidence is the fact that neither Edwards nor Branham were able to perform cures when faced with born-again Christians who had committed themselves to the protection of Christ. In the case of Branham, I have experienced this myself. When he spoke in Karlsruhe and Lausanne, there were several believers among the audience -- including myself -- who prayed along these lines: "Lord, if this man's powers are from You, then bless and use him, but if the healing gifts are not from You, then hinder him." The result? On both occasions Brnahm said from the platform, "There are disturbing powers here. I can do nothing." (Kurt Koch, Occult ABC, 1978, p. 235)
"The most remarkable "messiah" at (the time of the writing of this book) ... is to be found at camp Manujothi Ashram in the desert in South India. It is the extreme American evangelist, William Branham, whom Christians have to thank for this false messiah. His name is Paluser Lawrie Mathukrishna. When Branham was on (a) tour of India, Brother Lawrie became a disciple of his, and Branham described him as the "Son of God" and "Christ returned". This is a very curious situation. Why would the "Son of God" and "Christ returned" be the disciple of a man like Branham? Shouldn't it have been the other way around? Or maybe it was. Perhaps this is an important connection between hinduism and kundalini and the the modern "counterfeit" revival. Perhaps this is where Branham, one of the fathers of the Third Wave movement, picked up the ability to pass along kundalini-type manifestations. Perhaps this is where he picked up a demonic spirit, because it is "reported that towards the end, some of his teachings almost bordered on the occult." (Kurt Koch, Occult ABC, 1978, p. 66; comments by Deception In The Church, 1997; The Enigma Of William Branham)
Faith healer and prophet.
"For quite a while I have been embarrassed to say anything about the latter rain, because you are associated and identified with something that people don't seem to appreciate in certain evangelical circles. So I have played it cool and haven't said much about it. But I don't care what they think any more... I believe we are going to have the latter rain and I am looking forward to it." (Paul Cain, Toronto church on May 28, 1995)
Though Branham denied the historic, orthodox view of the Trinity, William Branham was the greatest prophet in the 20th century. This was due not to Branham's doctrines but to "his gifting in the word of knowledge." (Paul Cain, Armstrong in Michael Horton ed. Power Religion, 1992, p.67)
Paul Cain even advised his audience to wait until they get to heaven to examine his exposition of the ‘Manchild Company,’ which would never stand the test of Scripture: "…I know some of you are going to disagree with this. Don't you even stop to disagree. Revelation 12:5. If you disagree, just file it in ‘miscellaneous’ and check it out. And donut bother with it; when we get to heaven we'll check it out and you'll find out I'm right…" (Paul Cain, Prophetic Power and Passion Conference, Christ Chapel, Florence, Alabama, August, 1995.)
Paul Cain promises credulous Christians that in the fullness of endtime restorationism "all the sick are gonna be healed, the dead are gonna be raised and nations are gonna turn to God in a day." (Bob Jones and Paul Cain, "Selections from the Kansas City Prophets," audiotape)
Cain elevates expectations to a fever pitch by telling devotees that they will be "invincible"; that God is offering them a "greater privilege than was ever offered to any people of any generation at any time from Adam clear down through the end of the millennium"; and that they are "gonna have more than just a little omnipotent surge -- you're gonna behold that glory and become that glory." (Bob Jones and Paul Cain, "Selections from the Kansas City Prophets," audiotape, commentary from Counterfeit Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, 1997)
"No prophet or apostle who ever lived equaled the power of these individuals in this great army of the Lord in these last days. No one ever had it, not even Elijah or Peter or Paul, or anyone else enjoyed the power that is gong to rest on this great army." (Bob Jones and Paul Cain. "Selections from the Kansas City Prophets," audiotape (tape: 155C)
"...Every time God ever planned to do anything, the devil would get wind of it and he'd go out there are try to head it off...When he knew Moses was coming, what did he do to stop him...He killed all the babies. What did he do when he figured that Jesus was going to be born at a certain time? He released a decree through the wicked ruler to kill all the babies. Don't you see? And what's he doing now?...Abortions on every hand. So, you must know something's coming up greater than Moses, greater than,...Even in Jesus' day, because the devil is trying to kill off the New Breed. He's trying to kill off the bride of Christ and trying to kill the whole thing off, but the Lord has well planted this seed and the New Bride and the New Breed...He's about to open the womb and He's about to give birth to this New Thing...When the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us we beheld the glories of the only begotten of the Father and when you begin to become that Word I want you to know. The world will behold the glory of the Father and that's what we're waiting to see...I want you to know that we're going to have some channeling one of these days, but it's going to be channeled right out of the throne room of Heaven." (Paul Cain, "You Can Become the Word!", 1989, Vineyard Prophetic Conference)
"God's raising up a new standard, a new banner, if you will, that's going to radically change the expression, the understanding of Christianity in our generation...God has invited us to have a role in establishing a new order of Christianity...God is offering to this generation something He has never offered to any other generation...beware lest old order brethren rob you and steal this hope from you." Whatever happened to remaining in the truths that we were taught? Tit 1:9 "He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it." (Paul Cain, "You Can Become the Word!", 1989, Vineyard Prophetic Conference, with comment from Deception In The Church, 1997)
In the March 1994 issue of Trinity Broadcasting Network's newsletter, Paul Crouch wrote of prophesies by Paul Cain and the Kansas City Prophets: "Something BIG is in the air! 1994 is going to be a pivotal year. I can FEEL it--you can feel it--numerous Christian leaders and prophets of the Lord are declaring it! Pastor John Hickle of Christ Church, Los Angeles, received a word from the Lord that evil will be ripped from the land in June. Kim Clement, an evangelist from South Africa, has prophesied some astounding things for the near future. Paul Cain has seen, by the Holy Spirit, an earth-shaking outpouring of REVIVAL such as the world has NEVER seen! Aquilla Wilkins Nash, who has told me MANY things by the revelation of God, has also prophesied some awesome events for the year and years just ahead ... Prophet Paul Cain has seen in the Spirit, a last days revival so powerful that hospitals will literally be emptied and people kneeling in public places to receive Christ will become commonplace! Not only will "hospitals" not "be emptied" before Christ returns or evil be "ripped from the earth" before the final judgment, but Cain's prophesy of a great revival in 1994 never materialized. True revival is characterized by repentance and profound changes, even in the surrounding secular community. At the outbreak of the Welsh Revival taverns were closed and horses wouldn't go because their drivers were no longer using curse words to drive them. Since Toronto and Brownsville are being cited as examples of this prophesy being fulfilled, it is worthy to note that in both cities crime and evil is on the rise. There has been no true revival at all from Toronto or Brownsville. (Paul Crouch, "Blessed Are the Eyes Which See," Praise the Lord newsletter, March 1994; with comments by Deception In The Church).
Ordained as a minister in the International Convention of Faith Churches and Ministers by Kenneth Copeland.
Capps has gone so far as to teach that Jesus was the product of God's positive confession: "This is the key to understanding the virgin birth. God's Word is full of faith and spirit power. God spoke it. God transmitted that image to Mary. She received the image inside of her....The embryo that was in Mary's womb was nothing more than the Word of God....She conceived the Word of God." (Charles Capps, Dynamics of Faith and Confession (Tulsa, OK: Harrison House, 1987), 86-87; cf. Charles Capps, Authority in Three Worlds (Tulsa, OK: Harrison House, 1982), 76-85)
Capps claims that if someone says, "I'm just dying to do that" or "That just tickled me to death," their statements may literally come true (i.e., they may die). According to Capps, this is precisely why the human race now lives only about seventy years instead of 900 years, as was the case with Adam. (Charles Capps, The Tongue -- A Creative Force (Tulsa, OK: Harrison House, 1976), 91)
Television evangelist on TBN.
"Did you know that from the beginning of time the whole purpose of God was to reproduce Himself?...And when we stand up here, brother, you're not looking at Morris Cerullo; you're looking at God. You're looking at Jesus" (Morris Cerullo, "The End Time Manifestation of the Sons of God," Morris Cerullo World Evangelism tape 1).
Morris Cerullo said "You represent all that God is and all that God has...Jesus was the visible expression of God. Jesus was the Son of the Living God. Now, who are you? Sons of God…everyone say it. What is working inside of us is the manifestation. When you look at me, you are looking at Jesus…To see Jesus was to see God. To see me is to see Jesus. Jesus knew who He was. Don’t you think it is about time we know who we are?" ("Joel’s Army," Jewel van der Merwe, Discernment Ministries)
Morris Cerullo claims he was led out of a Jewish orphanage by two angelic beings; transported to heaven for a face-to-face meeting with God; and told he would be capable of revealing the future. (Cerullo, The Miracle Book, ix; and 7 Point Outreach -- World Evangelism and You (pamphlet), 4.; Cerullo, The Miracle Book, xi.; "God's Faithful, Anointed Servant, Morris Cerullo.")
Claiming that God was directly speaking through him, Cerullo uttered, "Would you surrender your pocketbooks unto Me, saith God, and let me be the Lord of your pocketbooks....Yea, so be thou obedient unto my voice." (Morris Cerullo, "A Word from God at the Deeper Life World Conference," Deeper Life, March 1982, 15.)
Morris Cerullo is now offering thorugh his television show and web site "God's Victorious Army Financial Breakthrough Spiritual Warfare Bible". Here is the description of how to attain financial freedom and wealth as Cerullo contends Christians should: "This Bible is the definitive word on finances, with special icons designed to lead you throughout God's Word, teaching you about Biblical finances. This beautiful, genuine bonded-leather Bible has more than 2,000 pages, chock full of financial breakthrough principles and spiritual commentaries honed from Morris Cerullo's fifty years of experience serving the Savior ... THIS INCREDIBLE BIBLE CAN BE YOURS FOR A LOVE GIFT OF ONLY $89 OR MORE." (Morris Cerullo, at http://www.needlenook.com/~mcweis/bible.html (caps are Cerullo's), 1997, with comments by Deception In The Church)
"... When a person comes forward and testifies that they are healed, we give that testimony. You can call it a claim. We don't claim it but we testify to that fact ..." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Morris Cerullo/Benny Hinn Never Say 'You're Healed'!").
PAUL YONGGI CHO (David Cho)
Pastor of the world's largest church, located in Seoul, South Korea
Cho claims to have received his call to preach from Jesus Christ Himself, who supposedly appeared to him dressed like a fireman. (Dwight J. Wilson, "Cho, Paul Yonggi," Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, 161)
Cho is well aware of his link to occultism, arguing that if Buddhists and Yoga practitioners can accomplish their objectives through fourth dimensional powers, then Christians should be able to accomplish much more by using the same means. (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, vol. 1 (South Plainfield, NJ: Bridge Publishing, 1979), 37, 41)
As Cho tells the story of his name change, God showed him that Paul Cho had to die and David Cho was to be resurrected in his place. According to Cho, God Himself came up with his new name. (Paul Yonggi Cho interviewed by C. Peter Wagner, "Yonggi Cho Changes His Name," Charisma & Christian Life, November 1992, 80)
"In 1993, Dr. Cho, pastor of the world's largest church in Seoul, Korea was conducting a meeting in Seattle, Washington. He was praying for revival in America. "God are you going to send revival to America, or is she destined for judgment?" While he was praying the Lord told him to get a map of America. He did so and the Holy Spirit told him to point his finger at the map. As he did, he felt his finger drawn to the Florida panhandle and to the city of Pensacola. "I am going to send revival to the seaside city of Pensacola and it will spread like a fire until all of America has been consumed by it," said the Lord to Dr. Cho. Dr. Cho shared his experience with others and the word predictably spread to many of the pastors in the Pensacola area." Since this prophesy came true, in a certain sense, Cho is not a false prophet. However, if this revival is not of God, then Cho must be receiving messages from another source. (Brownsville Revival web site at: http://www.brownsville-revival.org/choprop.html, with comments by Deception In The Church)
"You create the presence of Jesus with your mouth ... He is bound by your lips and by your words ... Remember that Christ is depending upon you and your spoken word to release His presence." (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, Volume One (So. Plainfield, NJ: Bridge Publishing, 1979), 83)
Cho's concept of fourth-dimensional thinking is nothing short of occultism. In his best-selling book "The Fourth Dimension", Cho unveils his departure from historic Christian theology and his entry into the world of the occult. Cho lists four steps in his incubation formula: 1) Visualize a clear-cut goal or idea in your mind; 2) have a burning desire for your objective; 3) pray until you get the guarantee or assurance from God that what you desire is already yours; 4) speak or confess the end result into existence. ((Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis, 1993 citing Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, Volume One (So. Plainfield, NJ: Bridge Publishing, 1979), 9-35; vol. 2, 18-33)
Clark now says that in the midst of his spiritual disillusionment, God rebuked him, saying, "You have a ... denominational spirit if you think you can only drink of the well of your own group." God then asked Clark a very pertinent question: "How badly do you want me?" (Randy Clark, Catch The Fire '94, Test Me Now ... I will Back You Up, TACF, 10/13/94, audiotape)
God decided to throw a party for His people because they "already feel so icky about themselves." (Randy Clark, Catch The Fire, TAV, 10/14/94, audiotape)
Randy Clark claims that the "greatest revival of all times" is now a reality. He tells credulous Christians that "people are being raised from the dead and temples are being hit by lightening or fireballs and knocked off their things. It's all over. Germany and Africa. It's everywhere. God's doing it." (Randy Clark, "Catch The Fire: Questions and Answers", TACF, 10/14/94, audiotape, commentary from Counterfiet Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, 1997)
"The theme of this conference is "Equipping Church Leadership With Power". Each Pastor and Worship Leader will participate in three workshops. The workshops are: 1) 5-step Healing Prayer Model, 2) Worship, 3) Small Groups. The workshops have a three-fold purpose. There will be teaching, impartation and practice. The workshops are designed to be interactive and involve the participation of the attendees. We believe this is the most effective way of impartation." This was from a letter to set up the "Catch The Fire" conference in Russia for church leaders. Several things are askew in the above scenario. (1) Only God can equip church leadership to do what He wants done, whether in power or in humble persecution. The "with power" statement is egotistic and false advertising. (2) If the desire was to "equip church leadership" then wouldn't subjects like "authority under Christ", "leadership through humility", and "servant hood" serve this purpose much better than supposedly teaching people a model of how to heal (ie. "the emphasis will be on understanding and using the 1 Cor 12 spiritual gifts in praying for the sick and unsaved. Pastors and Worship Leaders will have the opportunity to practice what they learned both in the workshop and the evening session ministry time"), a legalistic plan of worship to get people ready for the "impartation" (ie."the emphasis will be on understanding the power and presence of God to move on His people during intimate worship"), and how use small groups to get people indoctrinated into techniques of "intercession" and "impartation" (ie."the emphasis will be on imparting the life and the ministry of the Holy Spirit in home group settings. A secondary emphasis will be on identifying, recruiting, training, mentoring, observing and deploying home group leaders"), etc.? (3) Teaching people how to receive the "impartation" (let's get to the bottom line here, folks), giving the "impartation" and practicing by passing it on to others is not a Scriptural model of how to be a leader in church or do evangelism. We are not to preach and spread some sort of "impartation", no matter how holy it makes people feel. We are to preach the gospel and to remain in sound doctrine. (Randy Clark, "Letter Of Invitation" to churches in the former Soviet Union inviting them to the "Catch The Fire" conference in Moscow, 25-27 March 1996, 1/18/96; with commentary by Deception In The Church)
Previous to this, I had unknowingly been talking to Randy Clark! He also told me that "this is a move of God" as stated in Acts 2, and "people are drunk in the Spirit as they were then". (J & Y J. Wallsall, UK, June1995 in an e-mail from: Tricia Tillin, 21-Aug-1995)
During the meeting itself on Monday night, we were told by people who "braved it" that David Carr wore black trousers, an open black shirt and a medallion! Later they danced the conga and had an erotic dancer on stage. And David Carr did his "John Travolta" impression. Randy Clark told people "in order to receive the blessing" all they had to do was "not pray", as it "hinders the blessing". (J & Y J. Wallsall, UK, June1995 in an e-mail from: Tricia Tillin, 21-Aug-1995)
AOG minister and faith healer. (deceased)
Coe on occasion would actually "pick people up out of the wheelchairs. If they fell, he'd say you didn't have faith." (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997, pg. 137 citing Harrell, All Things Are Possible, 59)
Like modern faith healers, (Coe) suggested that those who opposed him were in danger of being "struck dead by God." (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997, pg. 137 citing Harrell, All Things Are Possible, 59)
The Assemblies of God were so embarrassed by Coe's exaggerated (healing) claims that they finally expelled him in 1953 on the grounds the he was "misleading the public". (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997, pg. 137 citing Harrell, All Things Are Possible, 111)
(Coe) warned followers "that the day would come when those who consulted physicians would have to take the mark of the beast." Coe (subsequently) became critically ill with bulbar polio ... (and) took the "mark of the beast" and was admitted to the hospital. (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997, pg. 137 citing Harrell, All Things Are Possible, 101)
While Counterfeit Revival leader Oral Roberts considered Jack Coe "a man of great faith", many other well known religious leaders considered Coe a master of gimmicks and fabrications. (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997, pg. 137)
Television evangelist with Kenneth Copeland Ministries who can be seen on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN).
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Faith is a Force (like Starwars). (Kenneth Copeland, Spirit, Soul and Body, #01-0601, Tape #1)
God did not create the world out of nothing, He used the Force of His Faith. (Kenneth Copeland, Spirit, Soul and Body, #01-0601, Tape #1)
Adam was not subordinate to God. (Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham, Tape #01-3001)
God and Adam looked exactly alike. (Kenneth Copeland, The Authority of the Believer IV; Tape #01-0304)
"Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God" (Kenneth Copeland, NOW WE ARE IN CHRIST JESUS (Ft. Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1980), 24.)
"God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself...He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even" (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham," tape 01-3001, n.d.).
"Faith is God's source of power" (Kenneth Copeland, Freedom From Fear, 1983. p. 12. emphasis original)
"You don't have a god in you, you are one." (Kenneth Copeland, "The Force Of Love" tape # 02-0028)
"Pray to yourself, because I'm in your self and you're in My self. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord." (Kenneth Copeland, "Believer's Voice of Victory", Feb. 1987, p.9)
"I say this with all respect so that it don't upset you too bad, but I say it anyway. When I read in the Bible where he [Jesus] says, 'I Am,' I just smile and say, 'Yes, I Am, too!'" (Kenneth Copeland, "Believer's Voice of Victory" broadcast on TBN, recorded 7/9/87)
"God is the biggest failure in the Bible...the reason you've never thought that is because He never said He was one".(Kenneth Copeland, "Praise-a-thon", broadcast on TBN, recorded 1988)
"God is a being that stands somewhere around 6'2, 6'3" (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham" tape # 01-3001)
The earth we live on is a "copy of the mother planet" (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham" tape # 01-3001)
"Gods reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself. He [Adam] was not a little like God, he was not almost like God, He was not subordinate to God even". (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham" tape # 01-3001)
"Adam is God manifested in the flesh" (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham" tape # 01-3001)
"Don't be disturbed when people accuse you of thinking you're God. The more you get to be like Me, the more they're going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn't claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in Me. Hallelujah. That's what you're doing." (Kenneth Copeland, "Voice of Victory" Vol. 15, No. 2, 2/87)
"And the whole New Testament calls Him the first-born....The word "born" began to ring in my spirit; it just began to roll around: born, born. I never had let Him go through that in my own thinking....And while I was laying there thinking about these things, the Spirit of God spoke to me. And He said, "Son, realize this: Now follow Me in this, don't let your tradition trip you up." He said, "Think this way: A twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain." And I threw my Bible down. I said, "What?" He said, "A born-again man defeated Satan. The first-born of many brethren defeated him." He said, "You are the very image and the very copy of that one." I said, "Goodness gracious, sakes alive!" And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, "You don't mean--you couldn't dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?" He said, "Oh, yeah, if you'd had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, 'cause you're a reborn man, too." (Kenneth Copeland, "What Happened from the Cross to the Throne" tape # 02-0017)
"Faith is a power force," he claims. "It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force." (Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Faith (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1989), 10.)
"Faith is a spiritual force....It is substance. Faith has the ability to effect natural substance." (Kenneth Copeland, Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1982), 8.)
"The force of gravity...makes the law of gravity work...this force of faith...makes the laws of the spirit world function." (Kenneth Copeland, The Laws of Prosperity (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Publications, 1974), 18-19.)
"God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith," (Kenneth Copeland, Freedom from Fear (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1983), 11.)
"Faith is God's source of power" (Kenneth Copeland, Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1982), 8.)
"Everything that you're able to see or touch, anything that you can feel, anything that's perceptive to the five physical senses, was originally the faith of God, and was born in the substance of God's faith." (Kenneth Copeland, Spirit, Soul and Body I (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985, audiotape #01-0601), side 1.)
"Faith was the raw material substance that the Spirit of God used to form the universe." (Kenneth Copeland, Authority of the Believer II (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987, audiotape #01-0302), side 1.)
"God used words when He created the heaven and the earth....Each time God spoke, He released His faith -- the creative power to bring His words to pass." (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1980), 4.)
"Words are spiritual containers," (Kenneth Copeland, Forces of the Recreated Human Spirit, 15; cf. 14.)
The "force of faith is released by words." (Kenneth Copeland, Authority of the Believer II (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987, audiotape #01-0302), side 1.)
God is someone "very much like you and me....A being that stands somewhere around 6'2," 6'3," that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, [and] has a [hand]span nine inches across." (Kenneth Copeland, Spirit, Soul and Body I, side 1.)
God is a "spirit-being with a body, complete with eyes, and eyelids, ears, nostrils, a mouth, hands and fingers, and feet." (Kenneth Copeland ministry letter, 21 July 1977.)
"The biggest failure in the Bible...is God." (Kenneth Copeland, Praise-a-Thon, TBN, 1988.)
"A copy of the mother planet [i.e., heaven] where God lives." (Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham I (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989, audiotape #01-3001), side 1.)
"God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself....Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus....Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh" (Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham I, side 1.)
"Adam was created in God's own image and likeness, a spirit-being...[and] takes on the nature of his spiritual father or lord." (Kenneth Copeland, Our Covenant with God (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1987), 7-8.)
"If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike....If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and act and sound exactly alike....The image is that they look just alike, but the likeness is that they act alike and they are alike....All of God's attributes, all of God's authority, all of God's faith, all of God's ability was invested in that man." (Kenneth Copeland, Authority of the Believer IV (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987, audiotape #01-0304), side 1)
"Man was created to know that great life force and he longs for it in his dreams. Adam had that life force in him before he committed high treason" (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2.)
"God's on the outside looking in," says Copeland. "He doesn't have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don't belong to Him." (Kenneth Copeland, The Image of God in You III (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989, audiotape #01-1403), side 1.)
"The sin of Adam went all the way up to, but not including, the throne of God...[even] the Heavenly Holy of Holies had to be purified." (Kenneth Copeland, Inner Image of the Covenant (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985, audiotape #01-4406), side 1.)
"God is on the outside looking in," says Copeland. "In order to have any say-so in the earth, He's gonna have to be in agreement with a man here." (Kenneth Copeland, God's Covenant with Man II (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985, audiotape #01-4404), side 1.)
Abram "gave God access to the earth." (Kenneth Copeland, Our Covenant with God, 10-11)
God "re-enacted with Abram what Satan had done with Adam, except that God did not sneak in and use deception...and Abram bought it." (Kenneth Copeland, Our Covenant with God, 10.)
"Words are the most sacred things....This is a word planet...governed by words...created by words....Words cause it to function...cause life...cause death....Words go on forever....Words are holy." (Kenneth Copeland, The Abrahamic Covenant, side 1.)
"God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus," Copeland explains. "This [sic] faith-filled words that framed the image that's in Him....He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world [Satan]." (Kenneth Copeland, The Image of God in You III, side 2.)
Christ "had no innate supernatural powers. He had no ability to perform miracles until after He was anointed by the Holy Spirit." (Kenneth Copeland, "Question & Answer," Believer's Voice of Victory, August 1988, 8.)
"The force of faith was controlling His (Jesus') ministry." (Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Faith, 9.)
"It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin...anybody can do that." (Kenneth Copeland, What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost (Kenneth Copeland, Fort Worth: Messages by Kenneth Copeland, n.d., audiotape #BCC-19), side 1.)
Jesus supposedly "put Himself into the hands of Satan when He went to that cross, and took that same nature that Adam did [when he sinned]." (Kenneth Copeland, The Incarnation (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985, audiotape #01-0402), side 1.)
"The day that Jesus was crucified, God's life, that eternal energy that was His from birth, moved out of Him and He accepted the very nature of death itself." (Kenneth Copeland, "The Price of It All," Believer's Voice of Victory, September 1991, 3.)
Jesus is said to have remarked, "It was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross....I accepted, in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2.)
Jesus "had to give up His righteousness" (Kenneth Copeland, The Incarnation, side 2.)
Jesus had to "accept the sin nature of Satan." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2.)
"Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell" (Kenneth Copeland, Holy Bible: Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition (Kenneth Copeland, Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1991), 129.)
"He [Jesus] allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell....He allowed Himself to come under Satan's control...every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him....They tortured Him beyond anything anybody had ever conceived. For three days He suffered everything there is to suffer." (Kenneth Copeland, "The Price of It All," 3.)
"How did Jesus then on the cross say, ‘My God.’ Because God was not His Father any more. He took upon Himself the nature of Satan. And I’m telling you Jesus is in the middle of that pit. He’s suffering all that there is to suffer, there is no suffering left . . . apart from Him. His emaciated, little wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing and the devil thinks He’s got Him destroyed. But, all of a sudden God started talking." (Kenneth Copeland, Believer's Voice of Victory (television program), TBN, 21 April 1991.)
"That Word of the living God went down into that pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life....Jesus was born again -- the firstborn from the dead the Word calls Him -- and He whipped the devil in his own backyard." (Kenneth Copeland, "The Price of It All," 4-6.)
"You are not a spiritual schizophrenic -- half-God and half-Satan -- you are all-God" (Kenneth Copeland, Now We Are in Christ Jesus (Fort Worth: KCP Publications, 1980), 16-17)
"You don't have a God in you; you are one," (Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Love (Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987, audiotape #02-0028), side 1.)
"As a born-again believer, you are equipped with the Word. You have the power of God at your disposal. By getting the Word deep into your spirit and speaking it boldly out your mouth, you release spiritual power to change things in the natural circumstances." (Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, 15.)
"The basic principle of the Christian life is to know that God put our sin, sickness, disease, sorrow, grief, and poverty on Jesus at Calvary," he asserts. "For Him to put any of this on us now would be a miscarriage of justice." (Kenneth Copeland, The Troublemaker, 6.)
"You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth." (Kenneth Copeland, Inner Image of the Covenant, side 2.)
"Words create pictures, and pictures in your mind create words. And then the words come back out your mouth....And when that spiritual force comes out it is going to give substance to the image that's on the inside of you. Aw, that's that visualization stuff! Aw, that's that New Age! No, New Age is trying to do this; and they'd get somewhat results out of it because this is spiritual law, brother." (Kenneth Copeland, Believer's Voice of Victory (television program), TBN, 28 March 1991.)
"Believers are not to be led by logic," he writes. "We are not even to be led by good sense" (Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Faith, 7)
"I don't preach doctrine, I preach faith." (Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham I, side 2.)
"Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet." (Kenneth Copeland, "Spirit, Soul, and a Body 1" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985, audio tape #01-0601, side 1)
"The Bible said He measured the heavens with a 9 inch span. Now the span is the difference, distance between the end of the thumb and the end of the little Finger. And, and that Bible said, in fact the amplified translation translates the Hebrew text that way. That He measured out the heavens with a 9 inch span. Well, I got a ruler and measured mine, and my span's 8 3/4 inches long. So now God's span is a quarter of an inch, a quarter inch longer than mine. So you see, that faith didn't come billowing out of some giant monster somewhere. It came out of the heart of a being that is very uncanny the way He's very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6' 2 ", 6' 3", that weighs somewhere in the neighbourhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better, has a span of 8 and, I mean nine inches across - stood up and said "Light be [Let it be?]", and this universe situated itself and went into motion. Glory to God." (Kenneth Copeland, "Spirit, Soul, and a Body 1" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1985, audio tape #01-0601, side 1)
"lt's all a copy. If's a copy of home. It's a copy of the mother planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it." (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham 1" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989, audio tape #01-3001, side 1)
"God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself. And in the garden of Eden He did that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even. And Adam was as much like God as you can get, Just the same as Jesus when He came into the earth, He said "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father." He wasn? a lot like God - He's God manifested in the flesh. And I want you to know something - Adam in the garden of Eden was God manifested in the flesh." (Kenneth Copeland, "Following the Faith of Abraham 1" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989, audio tape #01-3001, side 1)
"I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is. Everybody you ask "Who's the biggest failure?" They say "Judas", somebody else will say "No, I believe it was Adam", well how about the devil. He's the most consistent failure. But he's not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest one in all the Bible is God. What, what, what - don't you turn that set off - you listen to what. I told you - now you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldn't, I wouldn't tell something I can't prove from the Bible."(Kenneth Copeland, "Praise-a-thon" program - TBN (April 1988)
Speaking of Jesus, Kenneth Copeland said "This body walking here is a product of the faith of God, that God has injected in His Word and put it in the earth, piece by piece, by piece. He's building the express image of Himself.... The faith it took to make fingers was loosed. The faith that it took to make arms was loosed in the earth. And now God had a way to hover over a little woman by the name of Mary. And there was born of that virgin woman a product of God....Listen to me carefully here. Hero's where we're going to depart from ordinary church, Man listen, if you all wanted to have just ordinary church service you're in the wrong spot. Now you see God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus. This faith filled Words that framed the image that's in Him. And you can't just walk onto the earth and say "Let it be", because He doesn't have the right. He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blocking Him every way that he possibly could. It had to be put in here as a mystery." (Kenneth Copeland, "The Image of God in You III" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989, audio tape #01-1403, side 2)
"Jesus had to go through that same spiritual death in order to pay the price. Now it wasn't the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin, because if it had of been any prophet of God that had died for the last couple of thousand years before that could have paid that price. It wasn't physical death anybody could do that." (Kenneth Copeland, "What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, audio tape #020022)
"The Spirit of God spoke to me, and He said "Son, realize this" Now follow me in this, don't let your tradition trip you up. He said "Think this way. A twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain." And I threw my Bible..I said "What?" He said "A born-again man defeated Satan - the first-born of many brethren defeated him." He said "You are the very image, and the very copy of that one." I said "Goodness Gracious, saints alive." I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said "Well you don? mean - You couldn't dare mean that I could have done the same thing?" He said "Oh yeah. If you'd had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did you could've done the same thing cause you're a re-born man too." (Kenneth Copeland, "Substitution and Identification" (Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989, audio tape #00-0202, side 2)
Copeland, demonstrating that you can't teach an old dog new tricks, in his "Believer's Voice of Victory" magazine of January 1998, in an article called "Expect The Glory", continues to talk of the Christian's need for "visualization", creating an "inner image", and the "force of faith". He is simply parroting again the same old tired metaphysical lies he learned at the feet of Kenneth Hagin and E.W. Kenyon. "You began to meditate on those scriptures until you built an inner image of yourself healed. As that image grew more crisp and clear, you began to expect- or hope for - that image to become a reality. Eventually, faith rose up, put substance to that internal image and turned it into an external reality. ... That spiritual process always works the same way. Hope forms the image according to the Word, then faith rises up and gives substance to that image, making it a reality in the natural, physical realm. ... Actually, what you did is activate the scriptural process described in Hebrews 11:1 "Faith is the substance of things hoped for ... Boil it down to its simplest form, and you could write it like this: God's Word+Hope+Faith=Manifestation! ... You'll be expecting the very presence of God to rise up in you so powerfully that instead of believing for healing every six weeks, you'll walk in divine health every day! (p. 5) ... It wasn't Peter's shadow that healed them. What was it? That field of Glory that surrounded him. That's what [sic] God put hope in you to expect. The Glory! ... It will flood the earth when we meditate upon the Glory of God so much that hope rises up and produces an image. Then faith will release the Glory of God from the inside of us where we can't see it to the outside where we can see it! ... Does this sound wild to you? Well, it's not! If you'll go back and read the Bible, you'll see that's what Christianity is all about. God intended for the Body of Christ to walk through this earth with such a manifestation of His presence in our lives that it would either scare people spitless ... or draw them into the Kingdom of God! (p. 6) (Kenneth Copeland, "Believer's Voice of Victory" magazine, January 1998, in an article called "Expect The Glory", p. 5-6)
Copeland claims Jesus told him personally in a vision: "Don’t be disturbed when people put you down and speak harshly and roughly of you. They spoke that way of Me, should they not speak that way of you? The more you get to be like Me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and He was in Me. Hallelujah." (Kenneth Copeland, "Take Time To Pray," Believer’s Voice Of Victory 15, 2 (February 1987): 9.)
"Then, he created Eve out of Adam. Now, actually God didn’t name her Eve, Adam named her Eve later. That wasn’t her name, her name was Adam . . . Adam. When God said Adam, they both came. Their authority was one and the same together. They did everything together. They had always been together. Even when she was still part of him, he was as much female as he was male, LIKE GOD IS. And God separated the female part of him and then put them back together. Andshe was Adam, they were Adam. He was the man, she was the woman. She was the man with the womb." (Transcribed From A Message Given By Kenneth Copeland, Paw Creek Ministries)
Kenneth Copeland while speaking in tongues and slaying a man in the spirit appears to say: "Take the mark of the beast." (Kenneth Copeland, Copeland with RHB on video)
"... the only living Son of God was reborn." (Kenneth Copeland, audiotape)
"..the force of faith, is in the spiritual realm, a great deal like certain forces in the natural realm. It's a spiritual force like gravity is a natural force, electricity is a natural force of power ... it's a measurable force, it's conductable, perceptable to the touch. Faith is a spiritual force, it's perceptable, it's a tangable force, it's an invisible force .." (Kenneth Copeland, on TBN with Paul Crouch)
"This written Word is a copy of what God has already used to release His faith in the earth in the midst of mankind." (Kenneth Copeland, audiotape)
"God's Word ... is our connection to His faith. God's words are containers of His faith, His power, His love, His joy, His longsuffering ..." (Kenneth Copeland, audiotape)
"...We're gonna be Word people and we're gonna stay Word people and we're gonna be wealthy Word people in the things of God, and when you're wealthy ng in God you're content all the time, all the time. I can do with a dollar and a half than people out there can do with ten thousand dollars. Now you believe that? All right, reach out here like there's a big ol' lever stickin' up there in front and git ahold of it, and I mean you git it in your hand. You got your teeth gritted, you got a good grip on it? Rip it down some more. And say this ... money come out to me now! (Audience shouting with Copeland.) Money come out to me now! Third time ... money come out to me now! Now you shout about it. (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Slot Machine Gospel!").
"... He (Jesus) was the first man to every be born from death to spiritual life ... if He hadn't been spiritually born again, how in the world do you think you ever got it?..." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Jesus Was The First Born Again Man!").
NEW! "And the same thing happened to your spirit that happened to His [Jesus'] spirit, while He was in hell itself. You were born again--not just a forgiven sinner--but, 2nd Corinthians chapter 5, a new creation in Christ Jesus. Amen." [Kenneth Copeland, Believer's Voice of Victory webcast, click on Why Did Jesus Go To the Cross? Then click on Details, Sunday, April 4, 2010, http://www.kcm.org/media/ ]
See this article for many more quotes by Kenneth Copeland: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/copeland/general.htm
Head of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN).
Christians are little gods. (Praise the Lord (TBN), recorded 7/7/86)
God draws no distinction between Himself and us. God opens up the union of the very godhead (Trinity), and brings us into it. (Paul Crouch, Praise-a-thon (TBN), November 1990)
Paul Crouch will shoot heresy hunters (theology) if God doesn't (Praise-a-thon (Paul Crouch, TBN), 4/2/91)
Heresy hunters (theology) are to go to Hell. (Paul Crouch, Praise-a-thon (TBN), 4/2/91)
Does not want to see the ugly faces of heresy hunters (theology). (Paul Crouch, Praise-a-thon (TBN), 4/2/91)
"(Paul Crouch) Heretic hunters, these guys who spend their lives straightening us all out doctrinally, their gonna go straight to hell ... (Kenneth Copeland) Some of the people that I know who have criticized, some of them are dead right today in an early grave because of it and there's more than one of 'em got cancer." (Paul Crouch with Kenneth Copeland on TBN)
"Do you know what else that's settled then tonight? This hue and cry and controversy that has been spawned by the devil to try to bring dissension within the body of Christ that we are gods. I am a little god. I have His name. I am one with Him. I'm in covenant relation. I am a little god. Critics be gone! (You are everything that He is.)" (Paul Crouch, "Praise the Lord" program, July 7, 1986).
"I think God's given up on a lot of that old rotten Sanhedrin religious crowd, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. I think they're damned and on their way to hell and I don't think there's any redemption for them...the heresy hunters that want to find a little mote of illegal doctrine in some Christian's eye and pluck that little mote out of their eye when they've got the whole forest in their own lives and in their own eyes. I say to hell with you! Oh hallelujah. Get out of God's way, quit blocking God's bridges or God's gonna shoot you if I don't! I refuse to argue any longer with any of you out there. Don't even call me. If you want to argue doctrine, if you want to straighten out somebody over here, if you want to criticize Ken Copeland for his preaching on faith, or Dad Hagin. Get out of my life! I don't even want to talk to you or hear you. I don't want to see your ugly face! Get out of my face in Jesus' name." (Paul Crouch, "Praise-a-thon" broadcast on TBN, recorded 4/2/91)
"Read the parable of the Wheat and the Tares in Matthew 13:24-30 and you will see that at the end of this age the "ANGELS" are sent forth to remove evil from the earth. That word "ANGELS" also means messengers. So God may use some of us to finish up the work of this age." (Paul Crouch, PTL Newsletter, March, 1994, as cited in "Year 2000: Latter Rain" file, Alabama Discernment Ministries, (P.O. Box 632, Madison, AL 35758)
Paul Crouch said (on the TBN show "Praise The Lord" during their money-raising telethon) "if you have been healed or saved or blessed through TBN and have not contributed to (the) station, you are robbing God and will lose your reward in heaven." (Witnessed by Ed Tarkowski, e-mail Mon, 04 Aug 1997 20:34:13 -0600)
"Ah, dear Partners, can you see why God has called this TBN ARMY together in these last days? YOU and I are HIS VOICE to this dying generation! Help Jan and me - all of us - to cry out -HELLO WORLD! There is hope; there is help; there is deliverance; there is SALVATION! ... Please let us hear from you this month! The future of Christian Television, as we have known and loved it, is in the balance!" By "let us hear from your this month" Crouch means "send in your donations quickly" or "Christian television, as we have known it and loved it" will go down the tubes and people will have no way to hear about "salvation". If TBN and the TBN "Joels Army" is the only way for people to hear about salvation, then God help us all. Salvation by signs and wonders is no salvation at all. This kind of appeal for funds is yet another example of the shameful high pressure tactics of this "anointed" television syndicate. (Paul Crouch, Praise The Lord Newsletter, August 1997, emphasis in the original; with comments by Sandy Simpson, 1997)
"The first evidence to many of us was the great stirring of the Spirit in Toronto, Canada, about two years ago. Then, spontaneous revival broke out in Pensacola, Florida. Hungry souls sometimes wait in line all day just to get into the services at Brownsville Assembly of God Church. Signs, wonders and miracles, just like the Book of Acts, are happening there and many other places at home and abroad!" Here is yet another connection between and endorsement by a Faith Movement guru and the "counterfeit" revivals of Toronto and Pensacola. This should prove yet again that these movements are all connected in one "river". (Paul Crouch, Praise The Lord Newsletter, August 1997; with comments by Deception In The Church, 1997)
"God, we proclaim death to anything or anyone that will lift a hand against this network and this ministry that belongs to You, God. It is Your work, it is Your idea, it is Your property, it is Your airwaves, it is Your world, and we proclaim death to anything that would stand in the way of God's great voice of proclamation to the whole world. In the Name of Jesus, and all the people said Amen!" (Paul Crouch, TBN, 11/7/97)
Former co-pastor with John Wimber at the Vineyard Church and writer of such books as "Surprised by the Voice of God".
Jack Deere, a graduate of Dallas Seminary was, until recently, the primary theologian in the Vineyard churches, having forsaken much of the theology taught at Dallas. John Wimber, who mentored Jack Deere away from sound biblical doctrine into experiential theology, nonetheless depended upon Jack Deere for advice on matters of doctrine in how to counter objections to the weird manifestations in the Vineyard/Toronto movement. Jack Deere later left to join the First Presbyterian Church in Whitefish, Montana. After some problems arose at this church, Jack Deere resigned from the Pastorship on June 20, 1996. On March 11, 1997. His association with the Presbyterian church was ended when he renounced jurisdiction of the Presbytery of Glacier. Jack Deere is now the director of Grace Training Center and an instructor in Biblical studies at the Metro Christian Fellowship (formally Kansas City Vineyard) as well as an associate pastor at a Vineyard church in Amarillo, TX.. One of his goals is to "change the understanding and expression of Christianity in the whole earth in one generation." (The Interactive Bible)
Jack Deere said: "You see why we're excited about someone like Paul Cain or Bob Jones coming on the scene? Or others that we've met…you know those two powerful witnesses in Revelation 11:3? You know what they are, first and foremost? They are prophets. He said they will prophesy for 1,260 days. He's going to end the last days just before His Son returns with a prophetic movement that will sweep the entire face of the earth and will eclipse anything we have ever seen before…the significance of these signs and wonders…But they don't just happen on the earth. They come because they are prayed for and they are predicted by God's people." ("Joel’s Army," op. cit., Jewel van der Merwe.)
Jack Deere on the subject of modern day prophesy: "But you know what? God is in the process of offending our minds in order to reveal our hearts. And I don't know any place where it's going to be 100% right. There's going to be stumbling blocks in every ministry that the Holy Spirit is really responsible for." (Jack Deere, TACF, 11/20/94, audiotape)
Jack Deere says that with the third wave would come endtime apostles and prophets who would "do greater works than the apostles, than Jesus, or any other Old Testament prophets." (Jack Deere, "Intimacy With God and the End Time Church," Vineyard Christian Fellowship, Denver, CO, 1989, audiotape (session 2A)
In 1990, at a Charismatic Conference in the States, where Wimber and
Deere were the speakers, Dr. Deere was questioned in a friendly conversation,
Questioner: I wonder if you might tell me why you felt my explanation of the Gospel given yesterday was defective. [I said that Christ died for our sins, was buried, raised on the third day, and that it is this Gospel by which we are saved.]
Dr. Deere: I am not prepared to talk about that.
Questioner: Well, just offhand, what do you think the Gospel is?
Dr. Deere: I am not prepared to make a formal statement about that.
Questioner: Could you tell me informally what the Gospel is?
Dr. Deere: I am not sure.
Questioner: I find that surprising -- that you are not sure just what the Gospel is.
Dr. Deere: I used to be just like you -- thinking the Gospel was simply justification.
Questioner: Are you saying that the Gospel is more than justification by faith?
Dr. Deere: Yes.
Questioner: What would you add to it?
Dr. Deere: Deliverance.
Questioner: What do you mean by deliverance?
Dr. Deere: Things like demons and healing and....
Questioner: You would add as an essential part of the saving Gospel things like exorcising of demons and healing?
Dr. Deere: Yes.
Questioner: But you are not sure exactly what should be included?
Dr. Deere: No, not yet.
Questioner: Would it be fair to say that you are in a state of flux since joining the Wimber thing?
Dr. Deere: We are always in a state of flux -- you are....
Questioner: But in the Gospel message? Surely that is one thing we should have worked out. Don't you think we can reduce the Gospel to some sort of summary statement like Paul does in say 1 Corinthians 1 and 2, or 15; or 1 Thessalonians 4, or Romans 5?
Dr. Deere: [No response, except a shrug of the shoulders.]
Questioner: Do you think the Apostle Paul had anything particular in mind when he wrote to Timothy and asked him to guard the Gospel that had been entrusted to him? Are you saying that you couldn't go back into that pavilion and tell those people the Gospel?
Dr. Deere: No, not yet.
Questioner: When do you think you could do it?
Dr. Deere: Maybe five years, maybe ten....
(From Biblical Perspectives, July-Aug. 1990, p. 5.)
Head of Kenneth Hagin Ministries and RHEMA Bible Training Center.
We (the church) are Christ. (Kenneth Hagin, As Christ is -- So are we, Tape #44H06)
Christ's physical death on the cross was not enough to save us. (Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus obtained His Name, Tape 44H01)
Jesus tasted spiritual death. (Kenneth Hagin, How Jesus obtained His Name, Tape 44H01)
The Christian "is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." (Kenneth Hagin, "The Incarnation," THE WORD OF FAITH (Dec. 1980), 14.)
"The 22nd Psalm gives a graphic picture of the crucifixion of Jesus-more vivid than that of John, Matthew or Mark who witnessed it. He utters the strange words "But thou are holy." What does that mean? He is becoming sin. . . . His parched lips cry, "I am a worm and no man." He is spiritually dead-the worm. Jesus died of a ruptured heart. When it happened, blood from all parts of His body poured through the rent into the sack which holds the heart. As the body cooled, the red corpuscles coagulated and rose to the top, the white serum settled to the bottom. When that Roman spear pierced the sack, water poured out first, then the coagulated blood oozed out, rolling down his side onto the ground. John bore witness of it." (Kenneth Hagin, "Christ our Substitute", The Word of Faith [March 1975]), pp. 1,4,5,7)
"What does identification mean? It means our complete union with Him in His Substitutionary Sacrifice. This gives us the key which unlocks the great teachings of identification. Christ became one with us in sin that we might become one with Him in righteousness. He became as we were to the end that we might become as He is now. He died to make us live. He became weak to make us strong. He suffered shame to give us glory. He went to hell to take us to heaven. He was condemned to justify us. He was made sick that healing might be ours." (Kenneth Hagin, "The Resurrection! What it Gives Us. . ." The Word Of Faith [April 1977], p.5)
"Here is a picture of Christ in awful combat with the hosts of darkness. It gives us a glimpse of the tremendous victory He won before He rose from the dead. The margin of King James reads, "He put off from Himself the principalities and the powers." It is quite obvious and evident that whole demon hosts, when they had Jesus within their power intended to swamp Him, to overwhelm Him, and to hold Him in fearful bondage. But the cry came forth from the throne of God that Jesus had met the demands of Justice, that that man's redemption was a fact. And when that cry reached the dark regions, Jesus arose and threw back the host of demons and met Satan in awful combat. God has made this investment for He has made this deposit on which the church has a right to draw for. Oh that our eyes would open, that our souls would dare to rise in the realm of the omnipotent where that name would mean to us all that God the Father intended it to mean! In one sense, this is practically unexplored table land in Christian experience." (Kenneth Hagin, "The Name Of Jesus: The More Excellent Name," The Word of Faith [April 1976], pp. 4-6)
"God's method of physical healing is spiritual. It is not mental as Christian Science, Unity and other metaphysical teachers claim. Neither is it physical as the medical world teaches. When man heals, he must do it either through the mind or through the physical body. When God heals He heals through the human spirit, Life's greatest forces are spiritual forces. . . . Love and hate, faith and fear, joy and peace, are all of the spirit." (Kenneth Hagin, "Spirit, Soul, & Body; Part Three: God Heals through the Spirit of Man," Word of Faith [December 1977], p.5)
"The fact that there is enmity between Satan and the woman is seen through woman's history. . . . She has been bought and sold as common chattel. Only where Christianity has reached the heart of the country has woman been elevated above the brute creation. Woman's seed is Christ. Christ was hunted from His babyhood by Satan's seed until finally He was nailed to the cross. From the resurrection of Jesus until this day, the church has been the subject of the bitterest persecution and enmity of the world. "and it ... shall bruise thy head" (the head of Satan). In Oriental languages "bruising the head" means breaking the lordship of a ruler. "The heel" is the Church in its earth walk. . . .The long ages of persecution of the Church by the seed of Satan are today merely a matter of history." (Kenneth Hagin, "Incarnation," Word of Faith [December 1978], p. 4)
"Here in Genesis, God refused to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah until He had talked it over with Abraham, His blood covenant friend. Abraham's prayer is one of the most suggestive and illuminating prayers of the Old Testament. Abraham was taking his in the covenant. Abraham had, through the covenant, received rights and privileges which we very little understand. The covenant Abraham had just solemnized with Jehovah gave him a legal standing with God.... we hear him speaking so plainly... "Shall not the judge of all the earth do right?" All through the Old Testament we find men who understood and took their place in the covenant. Joshua could open the Jordan. He could command the sun, moon and stars to stand still in the heavens. Elijah could bring fire out of heaven to consume the altar as well as the sacrifice. David's mighty men were utterly shielded from death in time of war as long as they remembered the covenant." (Kenneth Hagin, Plead Your Case [Tulsa: Faith Library, 1979]), pp. 4-9; cf. pp. 23-32)
"In John 1:4 we get the first intimation of what this life will do for us: "In him was life; and the life was the light of men."" There are four different Greek words translated "life" in the New Testament. First, there is zoe. Then there is psuche. That means natural or human life. Bios means manner of life. And anastrophee means confused behavior. It seems strange that the Church has majored in "manner of life" or "behavior" rather than eternal life, which determines in a very large way the manner of life. Receiving eternal life is the most miraculous incident in life. Often we call it conversion or the new birth. Some call it "getting religion," but that's not what it is really. It is, in reality, God imparting His very Nature, substance, and being to our human spirits." (Kenneth Hagin, The God Kind of Life [Tulsa: Faith Library, 1981], pp. 1-2, 9)
"Man is a spirit who possesses a soul and lives in a body...., He is in the same class with God. ...We know that God is a Spirit. And yet [He] took upon Himself a man's body....when God took upon Himself human form, He was no less God than when He didn't have a body. Man, at physical death, leaves his as he was when he had his body." (Kenneth Hagin, Man of Three Dimensions [Tulsa: Faith Library, 1973], no page)
"[Man] was created on terms of equality with God, and he could stand in God's presence without any consciousness of inferiority...God made us as much like Himself as possible...He made us the same class of being that He is Himself...Man lived in the realm of God. He lived on terms equal with God...[The] believer is called Christ...That's who we are; we're Christ" (Kenneth Hagin, Zoe: The God-Kind of Life, 1989. pp. 35-36, 41)
"Every man who has been born again is an incarnation and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth" (Kenneth Hagin, "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith 13, December, 1980).
"You are as much the incarnation of God as Jesus Christ was...the believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth". (Kenneth Hagin, "Word Of Faith" Dec. 1980, p. 14)
"Why did He need to be begotten or born? Because He became like we were - separated from God. Because He tasted spiritual death for every man. And His spirit and inner men went to hell in my place. Can't you see that? Physical death wouldn't remove your sins. He's tasted death for every man. He's talking about tasting spiritual death. Jesus is the first person that was ever born again. Why did His spirit need to be born again? Because it was estranged from God." (Kenneth Hagin, "How Jesus obtained His Name" (Kenneth Hagin Ministries, audio tape #44-H01)
"Every man who has been born again is an incarnation and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." (Kenneth Hagin, "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith (December 1980), p. 14)
Despite solid evidence to the contrary, Hagin insists: "Kenyon's influence on my ministry has been minute. Only his teachings on the name of Jesus have mushc to do with my theology. I absolutely deny any metaphysical influences from Kenyon. I teach not Christian Science, but Christian sense." (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing Vinson Synan, "The Faith Of Kenneth Hagin", Charisma & Christian Faith, 15:11 (June 1990), 68)
Animal sounds: Redhead "mooing" at Kenneth Hagin meeting. See actual video!
Spiritual Drunkenness: See where the Rodney Howard-Browne and Kenneth Copeland spiritual drunkeness came from. "Dad" Kenneth Hagin explains, defends and demonstrates it! See video Hagin slaying in spiritual drunkeness! Listen for his hissing, sticking out his tongue like a serpent and his claim that the Apostles on Pentecost were actually acting like drunks!
Slaying in the Spirit: Kenneth Hagin passed it down to a whole generation! See actual video!
Kenneth Hagin See
TBN Televangelist and often one of the guest speakers at International Chrismatic Bible Ministries (ICBM) conferences.
Marilyn Hickey, much like Tilton, employs a broad range of tactics to manipulate followers into sending her money. Among her many ploys are anointed prayer cloths, ceremonial breastplates, and ropes that can be used as points of contact. In one of her appeal letters, Hickey promises she will slip into a ceremonial breastplate, "press your prayer request to my heart," and "place your requests on my shoulders" -- all for a suggested donation.(Marilyn Hickey Ministries, direct-mail piece, on file at CRI)
For the most part, Hickey's tricks and teachings are recycled from other prosperity peddlers like Tilton, Hagin, and Copeland. Her message is peppered with such Faith jargon as "the God-kind of faith," "confession brings possession," and "receiving follows giving." (From numerous TBN shows)
Marilyn Hickey, chairman of the board of regents of Oral Roberts University and author of "God's Seven Keys To Make You Rich", was mightily touched by Rodney Howard-Browne in Lakeland ... Hickey -- who dispenses miracle prayer cloths ... and demonstrates how Christians can create wealth by speaking to their wallets -- got extraordinarily excited about the laughter in Lakeland (a Rodney Howard-Browne meeting). Hickey's life and that of her daughter Sarah were "dramatically changed" as she "spent the entire time on the floor laughing". (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing Charles and France s hunter, "Holy Laughter" (Kingwood, TX: Hunter Books, 1994), 35-36)
"What do you need? Start creating it. Start speaking about it. Start speaking it into being. Speak to your billfold. Say, "You big, thick billfold full of money." Speak to your checkbook. Say, "You, checkbook, you. You've never been so prosperous since I owned you. You're just jammed full of money." (Marilyn Hickey, "Claim Your Miracles" (Denver: Marilyn Hickey Ministries, n.d.), audiotape #186, side 2)
Marilyn Hickey was a Trinity Music City. She had people hold their hands palm side up and had the audience say, "there are miracles in my hands." Marilyn helped solidify that the manifestations of miracles are in the hands of the people with the cry, "Don't give up until you get your manifestation." (E-mail from Ed Tarkowski, Wed, 23 Jul 1997 22:47:20)
Head evangelist at Brownsville Assembly Of God Church in Pensacola, FL -- the church where the "Brownsville Outpouring" began.
Steve Hill said "Don't leave me now ... just hang in there ... we'll get to the good stuff soon" (stopping to speak of the "anointing" every so often while teaching from Scripture.) (Revival ... or Satanic Counterfeit?, Jimmy Robbins, 1996)
Steve Hill said "If you must analyze, then look at me, look at the musicians and singers, look at the congregation, look at the person to the left of you and to the right of you, and just analyze, analyze, analyze get it out of your system. Now let yourselves go: don't even think about what you are doing, forget about those around you and what they are doing. Release your mind release your spirit and let the mighty river of the "Holy Ghost" take you wherever He wants you to go." (Revival ... or Satanic Counterfeit?, Jimmy Robbins, 1996)
Steve Hill said "Don't analyze this "move of God", and you had better receive it if you don't want a stamp of disapproval from Jesus." (Neal & Darlenn H visit to Brownsville AOG., 2/19/97)
Steve Hill said "In these latter days preaching and simply teaching the word is no longer sufficient, the Spirit has to get involved, through signs and wonders due to much sin that abounds." (What We Saw, Robert C. Gray, 12/14/96)
Steve Hill was very upset when he came to the pulpit to preach that night. He said that he had to get something said before he could preach. Then he talked about the "FBI," which he defined as the "Fault-finding Brothers International." He spoke so arrogantly about anyone questioning this "move of God". (The End Times and Victorious Living, March/April 1997, Vol. 11 No. 2, page 14.)
Evangelist Stephen Hill says that "conviction of sin and reaching the lost--not charismatic hoopla--is what this revival is all about." (The Pensacola "Outpouring", David W. Cloud, 11/18/96)
Pastor Daniels also said, "God is destroying denominational lines." His statement was echoed by Evangelist Steve Hill. (The Pensacola "Outpouring", David W. Cloud, 11/18/96)
"When you ridicule those whose bodies are twitching or shaking under the influence of God's glory, beware! Have you forgotten that God's Word and the annals of Church history are filled with the supernatural dealings of our supernatural God?" God does deal with his creatures supernaturally, but God's Word is silent about God ever sending His Holy Spirit to produce these types of manifestations, except in judgment, and certainly not as a blessing or by laying on of hands. Church history is full of stories of these manifestations which have been roundly dismissed as unbiblical and demonic by former church leaders such as Edwards, Spurgeon, Tozer and many others. (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997 with comment by Deception In The Church)
"The second mark of a God mocker is a fear of confrontation and change. They are so stuck in religious tradition that they are closed to new revelation. The pastor who mocked God as he left the Brownsville Revival was steeped in religious legalism. He was in bondage and totally closed to the moving of the Holy Ghost. (How anyone can come into a revival meeting in Brownsville and fail to feel Jesus is beyond me! I can't imagine it.)" Christians are not to be open to "new revelation" that is extra-Biblical in nature. We believe in the finished revelation of the Word of God and are told many times to remain in sound doctrine. You can be sure that the pastor who had objections to what is happening at Brownsville was not being legalistic, but decided to stand firm on God's Word. As to the ascertain that you cannot possibly attend Brownsville meetings without feeling Jesus -- many have attended and sensed just the opposite there. But the most important point is that we are not called to "feel Jesus" as much as we are to "know Jesus". If we base our doctrines on feelings we can be led astray by any wind of doctrine that blows through. This statement by Hill illustrates the height of egotism to which these false teachers and false prophets have aspired. (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997 with comment by Deception In The Church)
"These God mockers are writing "position papers" about external physical manifestations while totally ignoring the deeper work of God that is saving hundreds of thousands of souls and permanently changing lives." The deepest work of God is the work of salvation, not signs and wonders, lest Hill forget. People who disagree with this movement are trying to warn people of the awful danger of listening to a "different gospel" and coming away thinking they are saved but may have believed "in vain" because the gospel message is overshadowed many times over by false signs and wonders. (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997 with comment by Deception In The Church)
"God mockers have disturbed and confused this country. Most unsaved folks are trying their best to find somebody who really lives for God. If they could just find one person who lives holy and practices what they preach, they would have a standard, and they would get on fire for God too! However, all they find is a mockery." If this statement isn't the height of mockery, I don't know what is! How dare Hill judge what God is doing through His people by saying things like everyone who is outside of this "counterfeit" revival is unholy and does not practice what they preach. I have news for Hill -- many more people have been, are, and will be saved by the preaching of the gospel than by this mockery of true Christianity, this "counterfeit" that has disturbed and confused many, many churches, families and individuals. Hill has no idea what kind of damage this "revival" has already done. (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997 with comment by Deception In The Church)
"I'll stand alone (before God, the Judge), and you will stand alone before Him too. You will stand alone to answer for every seed of disunity and discord you have sown among the brethren, for every occasion you cursed another man's ministry." Those who question this movement are, for the most part, not mockers. They are good "Bereans" and are not cursing the people involved but are trying to warn others about the false teaching and prophesy going on there and praying for Christians who are involved to wake up. HOWEVER, John Kilpatrick falsely prophesied and cursed Hank Hanegraaff TO DEATH from the Brownsville pulpit while Steve Hill stood by and agreed with everything he was saying, even calling anyone who disagrees with them "devils". I don't see people who question this movement putting curses on the people at Brownsville. As for myself, I spend a lot of time in prayer for my friends who have been sucked into this maelstrom of chaos. (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997 with comment by Deception In The Church)
"Then these men sat through my message on "Mistaken Identity," which is based on the Lord's rebuke of those who claim to have done many great things in His name thinking they were right when they were dead wrong. They sat through all of that untouched and unmoved ..." So now all Christians are supposed to be moved by Hill's messages or they are not in tune with the Spirit? Apparently Hill has proclaimed himself the "pope" of Christianity. Could it be that "these men" simply did not sense any "anointing" whatsoever on Hill or his message because they had not been zapped into submission to his will? (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997 with comment by Deception In The Church)
"Only one thing really matters. You can go to hell with baptismal waters on your face and a confirmation certificate hanging on the wall behind your desk. You can go to hell even though you were the most faithful Sunday school teacher in your denomination and a founding member of the largest church in the city!" I would like to add to this statement -- you can also go to hell writhing around on the floor or laughing hysterically, thinking that you are justified and sanctified because Steve Hill said you were, when you are not. Only God knows the heart. If you were "saved" in a church that preaches false doctrine and elevates signs and wonders above salvation, I think you had better take a good look at yourself before you judge others. (Stephen Hill, The God Mockers, chapter 1, 1997, with comment by Deception In The Church)
Steve Hill from his book "God Mockers" speaking about anyone who opposes the Brownsville "Revival". "We are mocking Almighty God ... We are opposing God ... We are mocking the blood and power of the Cross ... We are taunting Christ ... We fear confrontation and change ... We are stuck in religious tradition ... Those who have attended BAG and still come away with Scriptural concerns in opposition to it have failed to "feel" Jesus ... (What does it mean, I wonder, to "feel Jesus"?) We reject the Spirit's work. We make a mockery of the things of God ... We hang out with other "God mockers" and feed on one another like spiritual carnivores ... We happily gather like a bunch of buzzards moving in for the kill ... We ignore the deeper work of God ... We sign "declarations of mockery" and disseminate them amongst the brethren, sowing strife and discord all along the way ... Our own congregations are dwindling away ... We have much to fear ... The movement at BAG is [according to Hill] God's revival and we are cursing it ... We are blasphemers ... We are disturbing and confusing the entire country ... We are "touching" the "Lord's anointed." (I want to know who said these men are the "Lord's anointed"? Moreover, the verse to which Hill alludes dealt with David's not literally killing Saul when he had the opportunity and has nothing whatsoever to do with leaders in the context in which Hill is attempting to apply it ... It is simply a proof-text, and one which has been frequently used by those who "criticize the critics", obviously intended to manipulate, intimidate, instill fear of God's forthcoming wrath and retribution and coerce those who have grave Biblical concerns about the movement at BAG into silence.) We are messing with God. We better back off." (Steve Hill, God Mockers, 1997)
"... Demons have not been able to hold back under the anointing several times last week and deliverance team along with Steve Hill had to deal with some of them on the spot. The ministers, staff and workers had been under horrific trials and attacks as we seek to give more of our hearts and lives to the Lord. We seemed to have come to the highest escalation of praise and worship last night since the beginning of the revival. I was so excited this whole week because of the way God had been showing up. The praise sent us bouncing all over the building last night. The shape of our building and the way people were popping up and down gave me the image of us being in one of those little pans of Jiffy Pop. Popcorn that you put on the burners and shake. As we got happier and happier and bouncing higher and higher.. it was like someone was shaking the handle of the pan... and the foil began to swell with the build up of praise. Then God reached down and ripped the foil cover between us and him and the steam ... the sweet aroma of praise went rushing to heaven. The only thing God to do with his perfect "pop corn" was to pour butter on us!!! And that he did! The Glory fell on us suddenly as Steve stood up to attempt to preach. The only words he could get out of his mouth was "Holy, holy , holy, holy"... and it went on for a LONG time. We began to leave our surroundings and go in the spirit to another place. The words, holy and worthy seemed to be the only words we sang." (in an e-mail from Cathy Wood at SisterWood@aol.com, 2/98, caps in the original) This is an apt description of the unbiblical behavior and doctrine eminating from Brownsville, no matter how the church leaders there try to cover it over by producing videos that purposely do not show this kind of stuff. Demons not able to "hold back the under the anointing"? Are we to believe that demons respond to this "anointing" too? Anointed demons? What a concept! God "showing up"? Where was God previous to His supposedly "showing up" at Brownsville for this service? One would hope in their hearts but since they are seeking to "give more of (their) hearts and lives to the Lord" apparently they have not had Him there yet. People "bouncing" like "Jiffy Pop"? "The Glory" falling on them? How do they know it was the Glory of God and not an emotional delusion from the "anointed" demons present? But the kicker here is that Steve Hill was not able to preach but could only say "Holy ...". This again demonstrates that systematic preaching and exposition of the Scriptures is not being done at Brownsville. We can all be thankful that Jesus, Paul, Peter or any of the apostles did not get up, bounce around like Jiffy Pop, and then spend long periods of time repeating over and over a mantra of "Holy ..." or "Worthy ...", or any other word, until its meaning is obscured by the misuse of it. (Comments by Deception In The Church, 1998)
Steve Hill, an Assemblies of God evangelist and chief speaker of the revival often pretends he's across Florida at Cape Canaveral: "You've got 20 seconds to come down!" Hill yells. "Come on down! Make up your mind! Who are you going to serve? Come on down! Eight seconds! Six, five, four, three. Come on! Yes, Lord!" (Quoted by Carlson, Washington Post, Sunday, April 27, 1997, p. F01.)
"Did you know, friend, there are people that talk about the revival
and sway people away from the revival that are going to stand on judgment
day-they're going to stand on judgment day for their blindness. The
blind leading the blind! There are people that want to get saved at the
Brownsville Revival. They wanted to get saved tonight! But before they
got out the door, some blind guide got ahold of them and said, "You don't
need to go over there; God can touch you right here." (Steve Hill,
White Cane Religion, video)
Television evangelist for Benny Hinn Ministries who can be seen on TBN and author of the bestselling "Good Morning, Holy Spirit".
God has 9 parts (tri-theistic).
A. God has a body, soul and spirit.
B. Jesus has a body, soul and spirit.
C. Holy Spirit has a body, soul and spirit. (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 10/13/90)
(NOTE: Allegedly Hinn later recanted this ascertion, but his view of the Godhead is still unclear.)
Christians are little messiahs. Christians are little gods. (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded November 1990)
Jesus at His death became one with Satan. (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 12/15/90)
Poverty comes from Hell. Prosperity comes from Heaven. Adam had complete dominion over the earth and all it contains. A. Adam could fly like a bird. B. Adam could swim underwater and breathe like a fish. Adam went to the moon. Adam walked on water. Adam was a super being, He was the first superman that lived. Adam had dominion over the sun, moon & stars. Christians do not have Christ in their hearts. Sow a big seed, when you confess it, you are activating the supernatural forces of God. (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded November 1990)
When you don't give money, it shows that you have the devil's nature. (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-thon (TBN), recorded 4/21/91)
Wants to use Holy Ghost machine gun to kill Heresy Hunters. (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-thon (TBN), 11/8/90)
"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 12/1/90).
Hinn revealed that he periodically visits (Kathryn) Kuhlman's grave (click here for a photo of her grave site) and that he is one of the few with a key to gain access to it. He also visits Aimee (McPherson's) grave (click here for photos of her grave site), where he says: "I felt a terrific anointing ... I was shaking all over ... trembling under the power of God ... `Dear God,' I said, `I feel the anointing.' ... I believe the anointing has lingered over Aimee's body." (Benny Hinn, April 7, 1991 sermon)
Benny Hinn said:
(1) Never, ever, ever go to the Lord and say, 'If it be thy will';
(2) No Christian should ever be sick;
(3) We Christians possess 'power in our mouths' to heal or kill just as witches possess it;
(4) Job tapped into the negative side of the faith force by a negative confession;
(5) Christ 'became one with the nature of Satan' and was 'born again' in hell;
(6) Christ would have sinned without the Holy Spirit and would have remained in the grave 'if the Holy Ghost had changed His mind about raising Him from the dead' [Jesus said, 'I have power to lay down my life and I have power to take it again' (Jn 10:18) for He is God];
(7) We are 'little gods' and even part of God with all the power of God; and
(8) We are 'little messiahs,' everything that Jesus ever was."
[Adapted and/or excerpted by permission from the 2/94 The Berean Call (P.O. Box 7019, Bend, OR 97708, and from a 1992 Media Spotlight Special Report (P.O. Box 290, Redmond, WA 98073).]
Benny Hinn claims to actually be a channel for God--that God enters him and takes over his mind and tongue to the point where he is unaware of what he has said. After his sermon on December 31, 1989, at Orlando Christian Center, during which he gave several future prophecies, Hinn expressed that he was drunk--presumably on the Holy Spirit--and asked someone to tell him what he had just said. (Biblical Discernment Ministries - 5/92)
"When one is born again by faith in Jesus, he is given a new spirit man that wasn't there before--a spirit man that is divine in nature and God-like" (Benny Hinn, Our Position in Christ [sermon tape]).
"Though we are not Almighty God Himself, nevertheless, we are now divine" (Benny Hinn, 12/1/90, TBN)
"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 12/1/90).
"What was the appearance of God the Father? Like that of a man...God has the likeness of fingers and hands and a face." (Good Morning Holy Spirit, (Benny Hinn, Word, 1991) p. 82)
"What does God the Father look like? Although I've never seen Him, I believe - as with the Holy Spirit - He looks like Jesus looked on earth." (Benny Hinn, Good Morning Holy Spirit, (Word, 1991) p.87)
"Had He (Jesus) not offered Himself through the Holy Ghost, He would not be accepted in the eyes of God the Father. Nor would He have endured the sufferings of the cross. Had He not presented Himself through the Holy Ghost, His blood would not have remained pure and spotless. And let me add this: Had the Holy Spirit not been with Jesus, He would have sinned." (Benny Hinn, Good Morning Holy Spirit, (Word, 1991) p.135)
"Do you know that every unbeliever is filled with a demon spirit?" (Good Morning Holy Spirit, (Benny Hinn, Word, 1991) p.146)
"Christians are "Little Messiah's and "little gods" on the earth. Thus [Encouraging the audience]...say "I am a God-man....This spirit-man within me is a God-man..." say "I'm born of heaven-a God-man. I'm a God man. I am a sample of Jesus. I'm a super being. Say it! Say it! Who's a super being? "I walk in the realm of the supernatural." Say it!...You want to prosper? Money will be falling on you from left, right and centre. God will begin to prosper you, for money always follows righteousness....Say after me, "everything I ever want is in me already." (Benny Hinn, TBN, 1990)
Benny Hinn says that Christians confessing they are "a sinner saved by grace" only insult God with such "garbage" (The Toronto Blessing, Stephen Sizer, 1990)
"Poverty is from the devil and that God wants all Christians prosperous." (Benny Hinn, TBN, 11/6/90)
"I am a 'little messiah' walking the earth" (Benny Hinn, Praise-a-Thon" on TBN, November 6, 1990).
"Are you ready for some real revelation knowledge....you are god" (Benny Hinn, "Our Position In Christ", tape # AO31190-1)
"You are a little god on earth running around". (Benny Hinn, "Praise-a-thon" broadcast on TBN, November, 1990)
"You think you're in this church to hear things you've heard for the last 50 years?" (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 10/13/90)
"If you have attacked me, your children will pay for it." (Benny Hinn, TBN "Heresy Hunters" October 23 1992)
"The anointing is the power of God" (Benny Hinn, The Anointing. Nashville: Thomas Nelson. 1992. 74.)
" . . . the anointing is dependent upon my words. God will not move unless I say it. Why? because He has made us coworkers with Him. He set things up that way." (Benny Hinn, The Anointing. Nashville: Thomas Nelson. 1992. 82.)
" . . . the anointing increases. He gives you a little and watches you. Then He gives you more." (Benny Hinn, The Anointing. Nashville: Thomas Nelson. 1992. 81.)
Benny Hinn said: "This spirit-man within me is a God-man. Say after me, he’s born of heaven, he’s a super-being…Say I’m born of heaven - God-man. I’m a God-man. I’m a sample of Jesus. I’m a super being. Say it! Say it! Who’s a super being? I walk in the realm of the supernatural. Get the spirit-man renewed…when he’s strong, he’ll hold off sickness…you want to prosper? Money will be falling on you from left, right and center. God will begin to prosper you, for money always follows righteousness…Say after me, I hold my destiny." ("Joel’s Army," Jewel van der Merwe, Discernment Ministries)
"You have so much today that is pure flesh, yet people have labeled it as the Spirit. It's not the Spirit, because it's not centered on Christ. It's pure emotionalism. Some of what is happening today, some of these manifestations where people are barking, making sounds of animals - I can tell you, that is not the Holy Spirit. It is purely demonic. The Holy Ghost does not bark. Only a devil barks. If somebody barks in my meeting, I'll cast the devil out of that man." That's all fine and good, but it is not Benny Hinn who can cast demons out. Only by the authority of Jesus Christ can a believer cast out demons. Also, we haven't seen Hinn do this and don't expect him to, because people in his audience are having weird manifestations also. On top of this, Hinn was kicked out of the Assmeblies of God in October of '96 for his heresy. Since the bulk of his comments on this show seemed to be aimed at Brownsville AOG, one has to wonder if this new seemingly non-heretical Benny Hinn is drunk on the wine of sour grapes. (Benny Hinn Condemns Toronto Blessing/Pensacola Phenomena Praise The Lord July 4, 1997 videotape transcript, with comment from Deception In The Church)
"You watching TBN here. If you're doing such nonsense, get back to the Bible. And don't you dare experiment with what is not Scriptural, checking out if God is in it. My brother, if it's not in the Bible, He's not in it!! If it's not in the Word of God, He is not in it." Benny Hinn is preaching to Christians who have been listening to him teach things that are so far away from Scripture that they are ridiculous. Now he expects us to believe, after he has preached heretical sermons and written heretical books that he is going "back to the Bible"? In my opinon, this is a ruse. But we shall see. (Benny Hinn Condemns Toronto Blessing/Pensacola Phenomena Praise The Lord July 4, 1997 videotape transcript, with comment from Sandy Simpson)
"Holy Spirit said something to me and I had to go like a mad man and looking in the Word. He says, ‘God’s original plan is that the woman was to bring forth children out of her side.’ What? You know that there is nowhere in the Bible but where God gives birth out of His side. Jesus gives birth to the church out of His side. Adam gives birth to his wife out of his side. It was sin that turned the thing around. And it was sin that transformed her flesh and her body." (Transcribed From A Message Given By Benny Hinn, Paw Creek Ministries)
I recently heard (Benny Hinn) say "when we breathe out we breathe ourselves out and when we breathe in we breathe in the Spirit".(E-Mail, Ed Tarkowski, Fri, 11 Jul 1997 02:09:43 -0600)
"God sent Jesus as an example to see if we could retain and maintain the Holy Spirit in human flesh." (Benny Hinn as observed by Ed Tarkowski in an e-mail Wed, 23 Jul 1997 23:02:03)
Interestingly, Hinn says, "You see, we are not seeking a move, not an experience. We are seeking Jesus, and when you seek Jesus, He'll breathe that mighty power of the Spirit." Apparently, Hinn is not a Christian, he says he is "seeking" Jesus. This is no testimony of knowing Jesus. He who believes on the Son has life, he who does not have the Son abides in darkness. ....instead of arguing "sound" doctrine with him, we need to share the gospel with him. If he doesn't know Jesus whom God sent, and He isn't abiding with him still, (which is the testimony of the saints), then he actually needs to know the Lord...be born again. "...except a man be born of water and the spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5 (Benny Hinn Condemns Toronto Blessing/Pensacola Phenomena Praise The Lord July 4, 1997 videotape transcript, commentary by (name withheld) in an e-mail to Stef O'Grady, Wed, 23 Jul 1997 22:27:21)
"Pastor Benny shares this testimony, whenever he comes to a CITY, the demons over that city will FLEE, crying, "The man of God is coming; the man of God is coming!" Can Hinn produce proof of this claim? Since Hinn has been proven many times over to be a false teacher and false prophet, it follows logically that any demons over a city he enters would be rejoicing that more Christians may be led astray. (Benny Hinn, Praise The Lord Newsletter, TBN, August 1997; with comment by Deception In The Church, 1997)
Benny Hinn speaking in tongues: "Demon, demon, demon ... glory, glory, glory!" (Benny Hinn, TBN)
Benny Hinn sounds like he says: "Lord Jesus, give them sin ... holy laughter to the people, I pray!" (Benny Hinn, TBN)
"Don't tell me you have Jesus. You ARE everything He was, and everything He is and shall be." (Benny Hinn, TBN)
"If Benny Hinn is real, he'll go into the hospitals and cure everyone there," asks WFTV's Marla Weech. "I've been told that many times," responds Hinn. "What I tell them is quite simple. Healing most times needs an atmosphere of faith." And that atmosphere is created again and again by those attending his national and international healing crusades, such as in a recent service to a capacity crowd in Orlando. "I have gone to hospitals. I've done it actually many times," says Hinn. "Or people's homes and pray for them. Most times, they cannot get healed. You've got to understand something. I'm not the healer. I cannot make it happen. God's people make it happen; bring this atmosphere of faith, but like I said, there have been times when I did go and God did heal them. But these have been very few." Straight from the "horse's mouth" folks! These Third Wave hucksters need an "atmosphere" in which to ply their trade. If this were ever a call for Christians and anyone else to avoid these circus events, I don't know what further evidence you need. Notice that it is not God who heals, but "God's people make it happen." This is further evidence of his continued teaching that Christians are "God" and when we get together, whatever we speak into existence with our mouths God is obligated to do. (Interview with Benny Hinn by Marla Weech, WFTV Anchor as reported in Inside Central Florida, with comment by Deception In The Church, http://www.insidecentralflorida.com/news/1998/11/19/WFTV_hinn.html, 1999 )
"Here's something that's amazing, Paul (Crouch), He was kept sinless by the Spirit, because the Bible says that He offered Himself spotless through the Spirit. What? This is right here. "How much more shall the blood of Christ, Who through the eternal Spirit, offered Himself without spot". So had the Holy Ghost not been there, then Jesus would have sinned. (Paul Crouch: Jesus have mercy!) Yeh. Now I know some of the, well, the heretic hunters won't like it, some won't like it but it's in the Bible. (Paul Crouch: I've never heard that.) The Holy Spirit is the one who kept Christ sinless, because without the Holy Spirit, Christ would have sinned." (Benny Hinn and Paul Crouch on TBN)
"Just know this, that Jesus could not have remained sinless without the Holy Ghost...." (Benny Hinn and Paul Crouch on TBN)
"... I'm gonna read one Scripture, and then I'm gonna preach and the devil is gonna drop dead ..." (Benny Hinn, tape of crusade)
"... and I love Copeland. He's my friend. And anybody who's attacking him is attacking the very presence of God." (Hinn on Kenneth Copeland)
"There's a groups here in Califonria that thinks they are the judgement seat of Christ. Dear God in heaven, I wish I just could just ... they call it a ministry, my foot. You know I've looked for one verse in the Bible, I just can't seem to find it. One verse that said, "If you don't like 'em, kill 'em." I really wish I could find it." (Benny Hinn on "heretic hunters")
"You see, frankly, that's the way I think about it. I'm sorry, I'm not exactly the normal kind of guy, you know, I'm from Israel. Sometimes I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun, I'd blow your head off." (Benny Hinn talking about "heresy hunters") Comment: first this is blasphemous. Second, Hinn is not an Israeli, he's an Arab Palestinian.
"... When the anointing of God hits in about a half hour bring him right up and I'll pray for him right here ..." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Benny Hinn Waiting On The Anointing!").
"... I was in Ghana recently preaching one night, they broguht a man, and this man was put on the platform, and he was dead, the man was dead. And it was a very scary thing, because nobody told me he was dead ... suddenly the people went wild ... behind my back the man was getting up and moving ..." (Later)"I was in Ghana just recently where half a million people showed up and a man was raised from the dead on the platform, that's a fact people." (Later)"I would not limit God, God can raise the dead, absolutely. I have not seen in, in that one case we did hear about it." Read this article called "Benny Hinn Claims "A Dead Man Raised" In Ghana" (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Benny Hinn Fabricating Stories Of Miracles!").
"... When a person comes forward and testifies that they are healed, we give that testimony. You can call it a claim. We don't claim it but we testify to that fact ..." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Morris Cerullo/Benny Hinn Never Say 'You're Healed'!").
See this article for many more quotes by Benny Hinn: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/hinn/general.htm
Evangelist with Revival Ministries International, the man who laid hands on practically everybody in the laughing revival.
"I'd rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything... and if the devil manifests, don't worry about that, either. Rejoice, because at least something is happening." (Rodney Howard-Browne, The Coming Revival. 1991, p.6)
Rodney Howard-Browne said "You can't understand what God is doing in these meetings with an analytical mind,' he says. 'The only way you're going to understand what God is doing is with your heart." (Holy Laughter, Albert James Dager, 1996)
Rodney Howard-Browne said "'Either You come down here and touch me, or I will come up there and touch You" (The prayer Howard-browne prayed before he got the "anointing") (Holy Laughter, Albert James Dager, 1996)
Rodney Howard-Browne said "Stop praying now and let the joy bubble out your belly. Joy. Joy. Joy. Don't pray! Laugh!" (Holy Laughter, Albert James Dager, 1996)
"I remember one service where I just went and sat down for an hour and a half. I just went and sat down. Well, there was nothing else I could do. Total pandemonium--people falling off of their chairs, people crying, people laughing and some were wailing--some were shaking. So, I just said to the people, I said, 'Look, just come up when you're ready and lift your hands and God will touch you.' I was sitting on the platform--just sat there and watched them for about an hour and a half. People came right up, got to the front, lifted their hands--BAM!--on the floor. I just sat there. I didn't even pray. You say, 'What'd you do?' I just sat there and twiddled my thumbs. I thought, 'Lord, I wish every meeting was as easy as this.' Now I had preached the word already and taught the word of God, and then I went and sat down. And they came walking up, got to the front, lifted their hands--BAM!--under the power of God." (Rodney Howard-Browne, TBN video-taped service which was broadcasted on May 1994, p.23-24.)
Rodney Howard-Browne calls himself the "Holy Ghost bartender." (Joel C. Gerlach, "Holy Laughter Is No Laughing Matter," Christian News (April 17, 1994, Vol. 33, No. 16), p.4; Dager, op. cit., p.10.)
Rodney Howard-Browne said "Take another drink...the bar is open....Be filled! We loose the power! Have another drink!" (Ed Tarkowski quoting Howard-Browne, 1994)
"You can't have revival without stirring up the flesh....When revival comes you will see manifestations of these three things in meetings: (1) the Holy Spirit; (2) the flesh, and (3) the devil. But, I'd rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything...Don't worry about it. And if a devil manifests, don't worry about that, either. Rejoice, because at least something is happening!" (Bill Randles quoting Rodney Howard-Browne, op. cit., p.162.)
"Fill, fill, fill, come to me, fill, fill" (Howard Browne shouts at the Holy Spirit to fill Randy Clark) (Rodney Howard-Browne, Taken from a Toronto Vineyard video and included in "A Plague in the Land" a video recording of a talk by Alan Morrison (1995)
"Tomorrow night were going to have a Holy Ghost blow out" (Rodney Howard-Browne, Taken from a Toronto Vineyard video and included in "A Plague in the Land" a video recording of a talk by Alan Morrison (1995)
Rodney Howard-Browne said "Drink and get drunk on the "new wine of the Spirit."" (The Toronto Curse, Sydney Allen Hunter, 1996)
"'One night I was preaching on hell,' Howard-Browne says, 'and [laughter] just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed'" (Rodney Howard-Browne, Charisma, August 1994, pg. 24).
(Rodney Howard-Browne) names numerous people, calling them "great men of God". Among them is William Branham - an anti-Trinitarian. ("The Coming Revival", written by Howard-Browne, page 13)
Rodney Howard-Browne: "I'm telling your right now," he hissed, "you'll drop dead if you prohibit what God is doing!" Dramatically he gestured toward the crowd and warned them that those like me, who would dare to question that what he was doing was of God, had committed the unpardonable sin and would not be forgiven in this world or the next." (Rodeny Boward-Browne, Melodyland Christian Center, Anaheim, CA, 1/17/95 - Comment from Counterfeit Revival, Hank Hanegraaf, 1997, pg. 22)
"It felt like my fingertips came off. I felt a full volume of the anointing flow out of my hand. The only way I can explain it is to liken it to a fireman holding a fire hose with a full volume of water flowing out of it. The anointing went right into her. It looked like someone had hit her in the head with an invisible baseball bat and she fell to the floor." (Rodney Howard-Browne, Touch Of God, 76)
"I tell them never to preach salvation, because they're suggesting people get saved," he said. "I'll guarantee anybody, I'll give them a congregation of 1,000 people and tell them to get up and suggest all they want and see what will happen." One of the other pastors cut in on the interview to say he read the story of Ananias and Sapphira to his church the other night and everyone ended up on the floor laughing. "One night I was preaching on hell," Howard-Browne said, continuing, "and it just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed, and when I gave an altar call, they came forward by the hundreds to get saved." "Then," I replied, "as to what you're preaching on, it's almost irrelevant what you're saying." He nodded. (An Evening with Rodney Howard-Browne, Copyright 1995 by the Christian Research Institute, from the Newswatch column of the Christian Research Journal, Winter 1995, page 43) by Julia Duin.)
Howard-Browne takes no credit for the Vineyard-driven "Toronto blessing" phenomenon ... and claims to be unable to analyze the current movement at all. "You really cannot understand what God is doing in these meetings with an analytical mind," he said. "It's not a move of man, it's a move of God. The mind is never going to understand what God's doing....The only way you're going to understand what God's doing is with your heart." ("An Evening with Rodney Howard-Browne" (from the Newswatch column of the Christian Research Journal, Winter 1995, page 43) by Julia Duin)
"I'm just the Holy Ghost bartender," he informed us. "I just serve the new wine and tell them to come drink." ("An Evening with Rodney Howard-Browne" (from the Newswatch column of the Christian Research Journal, Winter 1995, page 43) by Julia Duin)
Howard-Browne then began pumping us up to do just that. He led us in a song with these words: "I am drunk, I am drunk. Every day of my life I am drunk. I've been drinking down at Joel's place every night and every day. I am drunk on the new wine." Then he asked us all to lift our hands and "let that river of joy come out of your belly." ("An Evening with Rodney Howard-Browne" (from the Newswatch column of the Christian Research Journal, Winter 1995, page 43) by Julia Duin)
Though (A.A. Allen) was excommunicated by Pentecostal leaders in his day, he is extolled by endtime restorationists in ours. Rodney Howard-Browne, for one, urges devotees: "Read the life stories of some of the great men of God, men like A.A. Allen." (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing Rodney Howard-Browne, "Fresh Oil From Heaven" (Louisville, KY: RHBEA Publications, 1992), 23)
This audio clip is from a Kenneth Copeland revival with Rodney Howard-Browne. It was seen by a live stadium audience of 30,000 in attendance as well as millions of TV viewers. The woman started to laugh after she was "slain in the spirit" by laying of hands by Rodney Howard-Brown. At the end she breaks out into tongues. Does this sound like something from the Holy Spirit? Many Pentecostals believe that this is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit. Hear the audio clip!
"It started with a dream. Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne, a minister based in Tampa, Fla., had a dream in 1998 in which he was talking to Dr. Billy Graham. Dr. Graham spoke about the crusade he conducted in 1957 at Madison Square Garden. He rented the arena for what started as a six-week crusade, but extended for three and a half months. During that time, 55,000 people gave their lives to God at Madison Square Garden. While Dr. Graham was speaking in the dream, Dr. Howard-Browne wept for New York and America. As he wept, he felt the compassion of God for America. When he awoke, his pillow was soaked with tears. He knew at that moment that God had commissioned him to launch the largest soul-winning crusade of the millenium." Billy Graham appeared to RHB in a dream? Isn't that rather occultic? Does Billy Graham approve of this? Does he know he has been appearing in RHB's dreams lately? Are these dreams of soul winning or dreams of granduer? Most of all, how come RHB is not weeping over all the people he has deceived with false teaching and a false anointing not of the Holy Spirit? It would seem that he should repent of this first for God to use him in any way to preach the "gospel". In any case, we doubt very much that RHB understands what the gospel even means. (Good News New York, 1999 at http://www.gnny.com/about_gnny.htm with comments from Deception In The Church)
"... We've been taught that revival is sovereign, it's a sovereign move of God. Que sera sera, whatever will be will be, the future's not mine to see, the Doris Day doctrine. If God wants revival He'll do it, and we just wondering if we'll just keep having srvices until one day He comes ... revival is something that can be planned, revival is something that can be scheduled ..." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Revival Can Be Planned!").
"... I speak by the Holy Ghost, no man will be able to stand in the way of the glory of God, this is a mighty wave of the glory of God ... these are the days of signs and wonders ... and say God, I'm gonna get in middle the river of the move of the Spirit of the mighty God ... prepare your hearts for the coming of the Lord ..." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Signs And Wonders!").
See this article for many more quotes by Rodney Howard-Browne: http://www.pfo.org/intoxic.htm
Editor of MorningStar Magazine and Third Wave prophet.
"What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or another awakening; it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in order to begin to awaken those who are destined to radically change the course, and even the very definition of Christianity. The dismantling of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and exhilarating experience for the Lord’s faithful servants. A great company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles will be raised up with the spirit of Phineas…" (Rick Joyner, The Harvest, op. cit. "Joel’s Army.")
Rick Joyner reports visions of "a bloody civil war" in the Church. (Latter Rain Revival, 1996)
Rick Joyner has identified "Antichrist" as the orthodox church. (Weighed and Found Wanting, Bill Randles, p. 64.)
Rick Joyner on the subject of the latter-day apostles and prophets who will be greater than the apostles and prophets of Biblical times: "In the near future we will not be looking back at the early church with envy because of the great exploits of those days, but all will be saying that He certainly did save Hi best wine for last. The most glorious times in all of history have not come upon us. You, who have dreamed of one day being able to talk with Peter, John and Paul, are going to be surprised to find that they have all been waiting to talk to you." (Rick Joyner, The Harvest (Pineville, NC, MorningStar, 1990, 9)
"Like the American Civil War, the coming spiritual civil war will also be between the Blue and the Gray. In dreams and visions blue often represents heavenly mindedness - the sky is blue - and gray speaks of thos who live by the power of their own minds - the brain is often called gray matter - this will be a conflict between those who may be genuine Christians, but who live mostly according to their natural minds and human wisdom, and those who follow the Holy Spirit." (Rick Joyner, The Morning Star Prophetic Bulletin, May 1996, 2)
"There will also be some new wonders coming to the church. We had some of these just recently where Bob Jones and I heard angels singing twice in a meeting. This didn't even take any faith, it was so loud and so clear, it was like a choir singing. Another time, we had the odor of incense fill a meeting for about 15 minutes. It was so intense that you couldn't help but smell it...He gave it as a witness that He was receiving the intercession from these people, the prayers and their intercession. He had said He would come with a sign that we would smell the incense. It came so powerfully faith was hardly needed. And we saw the wind of the Spirit blow so hard at a meeting you could see people's hair blowing! So He is coming a whole lot more dramatically. As one brother said, 'This hardly takes any faith, it is so obvious.' But when He comes in ways like that, it is always to give a message. He is not just trying to tickle our curiosity or our interest in supernatural things, He is trying to say something to us." One of the major points I have tried to make through (my) book, is that there has been a "conditioning" of God's people over the years. They have been conditioned to become more attuned to sensual manifestation than to the Word of God. Joyner ends this paragraph by saying that "He (God) is trying to say something to us." God has spoken already through His Son and through the Word of God, He doesn't need to give you scents of honeysuckle to let you know He heard your prayers. He wants us to come by faith. Heb 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." I could go on and on about the damage done to the Charismatic church and the Body as a whole, through the Kansas City Prophets affair, but I think I've made my point. I contend that what we are seeing in Toronto, through Rodney Howard-Browne, and all over the world, is merely the logical next step, to what was begun in the 1940's, carried on by the Latter Rain/Manifested Sons teachers, progressing into the Dominion Now, Kingdom Now crowd, The Faith Message, the prophetic move, up to this day. Where is this "river" taking us? Into delusion and apostasy! (Rick Joyner, Faith Hardly Needed From Fullness, Jan/Feb 1990 "The Unfolding of a Prophet." Page 13, with commentary by Bill Randles, Weighed And Found Wanting, 1994, appendix)
"From the first Day of Pentecost, the Holy Spirit has proven that He will only come to the degree that we have unity." Joyner makes this statement without regard to the fact that every person who beleives in Jesus Christ receives the Holy Spirit, therefore He has already "come" to every believer. "Unity" is not the criteria for the Holy Spirit to "come". Belief is. Eph. 1:13 "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit." 1 Cor. 12:13 "For we were ALL baptized by one Spirit into one body whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free and we were ALL given the one Spirit to drink." (Emphasis mine) (Rick Joyner, "Azusa Street - The Fire That Could Not Die", The Morning Star Journal, Volume 7, Number 1, with comment by Deception In The Church, 1997)
"At the height of the Azusa Street revival Seymour prophesied, "We are on the verge of the greatest miracle the world has ever seen." The miracle he was referring to was a true love and unity between races and creeds that he considered to be fundamental Christianity. When it does, William J. Seymour must be considered as one who sowed the seeds for this greatest miracle of all. Possibly more than any other man in church history, he promoted that which alone can bring it to pass, seeking the fulness of the Holy Spirit in our midst." I have news for Joyner and Seymour (although, since Seymour is now dead he will know this to be true), the "greatest miracle" of all is the salvation of a lost soul, not some kind of ecumenical "unity between races and creeds". Lu 15:10 "In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." Angels rejoice over repentant sinners. The Bible does not say they rejoice over "unity between races and creeds" or false signs and wonder.. (Rick Joyner, "Azusa Street - The Fire That Could Not Die", The Morning Star Journal, Volume 7, Number 1, with comment by Sandy Simpson, 1997)
"We must be vigilant and able to quickly recognize the enemy, but not be too quick to call someone the enemy until we are sure of what we see. A friend of mine who was a close associate of Jack Coe, one of the greatest of the healing evangelists, told me how he died quickly and unexpectedly at the age of just 39 after publicly referring to Kathryn Kuhlman as a witch. Years later, Kuhlman died quickly and unexpectedly after publicly calling Bob Mumford a false teacher. Were these the judgments of God? I believe both of these died because of the mercy of the Lord, to keep them from crossing the line to becoming a stumbling block, something the Lord Himself warned should be the last thing we ever want to become." This is used as an illustration by Joyner of true prophets calling someone else a false prophet and dying. First of all "too quick to judge"? It apparently took these people most of their lives to make these judgments. Secondly, from the list he mentioned, this is a classic example of false prophets calling each other false prophets and God taking them out. Just read a little about the lives of Jack Coe and Kathryn Kuhlman and their heretical practices and statements, if you are in doubt. Joyner is also wrong about judging. We are called to judge the words of Christians, as good "Bereans". Paul called people to judge his words. 1Co 10:15 "I speak to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say." We are also called to test the spirits for the express purpose of finding out who the false prophets are. 1 Jo 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." If people are found to be false prophets and false teachers, we are to have nothing further to do with them as Christians. Jeremiah 23:16 "This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD." (Rick Joyner, "False Prophets and False Prophecy", The Morning Star Journal, Volume 6, Number 4, with comment by Deception In The Church, 1997, emphasis mine)
"One of the greatest hazards affecting maturing prophets is the erroneous interpretation of the Old Testament exhortation that if a prophet ever predicted something which did not come to pass he was no longer to be considered a true prophet (see Deut. 18:20-22). The warning was that if this happened, the prophet had been presumptuous and the people were not to fear him. If one predicts something in the name of the Lord and it does not come to pass, he probably has spoken presumptuously and needs to be repented of, but that does not make him a false prophet. No one could step out in the faith required to walk in his calling if he knew that a single mistake would ruin him for life." How conveneint an interpretation! First of all, to our knowledge, Rick Joyner has never repented of any of the false prophesies ... excuse me ... "mistakes" he has made. Furthermore, by his interpretation, there can be no such thing as a false prophet at all, since he has just stripped away one of the main ways to discern false prophesy -- lies. Either a prophet is telling the truth or he is a lying, false prophet. Simple. Add to this the fact the Rick Joyner ignores the dire indictment against false prophesy in following in Duet. 18, as do other self-proclaimed Third Wavers with fertile imaginations. Lucky for him we no longer follow the sentence imposed under the Law for false prophesy. The Law of Christ is enough for us to discern those who greive the Spirit by throwing grace back in the face of our precious Lord Jesus Christ by teaching and promoting lies. (The Prophetic Ministry, The Morning Star Prophetic Newsletter, Rick Joyner, n.d., Vol 3, No. 2, pg. 2. with comment by Deception In The Church)
"Bob [Jones] was told that the general level of prophetic revelation in the church was about 65% accurate at this time. Some are only about 10% accurate, a very few of the most mature prophets are approaching 85% to 95% accuracy. Prophecy is increasing in purity, but there is still a long way to go for those who walk in this ministry. This is actually grace for the church now, because 100% accuracy in this ministry will bring a level of accountability to the church which she is too immature to bear at this time; it would result in too many 'Ananias and Sapphiras.' That so many the (sic) prophetic ministries are still missing so much is also meant to work humility and wisdom in them so that they will be able to handle the authority and power coming in the near future." If you can't handle truth in the first place, what makes you think you can handle authority, let alone power? (The Prophetic Ministry, The Morning Star Prophetic Newsletter, Rick Joyner, n.d., Vol 3, No. 2, pg. 4 with comment from Deception In The Church)
"... I think you people are in danger of getting out of control. Wouldn't that be something if we got out of control. I believe that's where we're headed." Joyner was not saying this in a negative sense, but that it would be GOOD to be out of control. (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Out Of Control!").
See this article for many more quotes by Rick Joyner: http://www.powerup.com.au/~shaneph/rick_joyner__christian_gnostic.htm
ESSEK WILLIAM KENYON
The true father of the modern-day Faith movement. (deceased)
Essek William Kenyon's life and ministry were enormously impacted by such cults as Science of Mind, the Unity School of Christianity, Christian Science, and New Thought metaphysics. (E. W. Kenyon, The Father and His Family, 17th ed. (Lynnwood, WA: Kenyon's Gospel Publishing Society, 1964), 100; cf. Kenneth E. Hagin, "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith, December 1980, 14)
Many of the phrases popularized by present-day prosperity preachers, such as "What I confess, I possess," were originally coined by Kenyon. Kenneth Hagin ... plagiarized much of Kenyon's work, including the statement, "Every man who has been 'born again' is an Incarnation, and Christianity is a miracle. The believer is as much an Incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth." (E. W. Kenyon, The Father and His Family, 17th ed. (Lynnwood, WA: Kenyon's Gospel Publishing Society, 1964), 100; cf. Kenneth E. Hagin, "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith, December 1980, 14)
"If Jesus' physical death could pay the penalty for Sin as some contend, then why is it necessary that a Christian die? If a Christian dies physically, does he not pay the penalty of his own sin? If physical death is the penalty for sin, then why do not the whole human race pay their own penalty, and save themselves, for all die? But we hold that the physical death of Jesus did not touch the sin issue at all." (Daniel R. McConnell, A Different Gospel (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 1988), 23, 28 note 23)
Head pastor at Brownsville Assembly Of God Church in Pensacola, FL -- the church where the "Brownsville Outpouring" began.
"My God, church, get in! This is it! Revival's come! This is what we've been praying for! Get in!" This is a revealing statement made by John Kilpatrck on the first day of the Pensacola "Outpouring". This brings up many questions that every Christian should ask themselves about this movement. Questions such as: Do we take men's words over God's Word as an indicator of "revival"? Is there any Biblical precedant for a man to state categorically that "revival has come"? Is there any Biblical evidence of men "putting things in God's ears" such as ordering God to bring or continue revival? How can one "get in" a revival when revival is something that happens primarily on the inside of a person that results in inward and outward renewal? Is "revival" a tangible force? Is it a substance that can be transfered? Can you "get in" to it like you would jump in a river? Is it something to wallow in, rolling on the floor and oinking like pigs? Or is the only way you can be revived to have repentance in your heart and obey God's will for your life? (John Kilpatrick, Counterfeit Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, audiotape version, 1997; with comment by Deception In The Church, 1997)
John Kilpatrick said "Let (yourselves) go" ... "do not think about what you are doing" ... "just give yourselves completely to the `spirit'". (Revival ... or Satanic Counterfeit?, Jimmy Robbins, 1996)
Kilpatrick stood on the platform praying with Hill and another man when he suddenly heard a sound like a "rushing mighty wind" sweep over his right shoulder. As Kilpatrick looked over his shoulder, he said his ankles slipped, his knees bowed out, and a sudden "river of the glory of God" moved between his legs. "It felt like a telephone pole," he said. "An endless telephone pole was coming through my legs and it was coming in the church." With some help from another man on the platform, Kilpatrick stepped back and listened to the sound of the "rushing mighty wind" and what he described as the "river of the glory of God" as it swept into the church. He suddenly jumped to the pulpit and screamed, "My God, church, get in! This is it! This is what we've been praying for! Get in!" (The Brownsville/Pensacola Outpouring. Revival or Pandemonium?, Matt Costella, Staff Writer ©FOUNDATION Magazine, March-April 1997) - Note: I saw the video tape of this very night and there was no sound of a rushing wind, no 1000 people at the altar. There were only a couple hundred or so people who slowly came forward who had been coerced to come and receive the "anointing" Steve Hill had received from Sandy Millar at the Holy Trinity Brompton, England.
"God sent pandemonium in the church," he said. "I think it's time that we have grand pandemonium in the Baptists, in the Lutheran, the Episcopal, the Assembly of God [churches]. God send pandemonium!" Kilpatrick exclaimed. (The Brownsville/Pensacola Outpouring. Revival or Pandemonium?, Matt Costella, Staff Writer ©FOUNDATION Magazine, March-April 1997)
"Let me tell you something else about this revival," Kilpatrick said. "This move of God is not about preaching." He said that while he and evangelist Steve Hill do preach sermons that are simple and easy to understand, the signs and miracles are what actually turn people to Christ, not the Word of God. "We've heard so many sermons and so much of the Word of God that we've grown fat," he said, "but there's been no power and no anointing and no miracles. So, I just want to tell you, that's why tonight I don't feel bad about not coming up here and preaching a great sermon." (The Brownsville/Pensacola Outpouring. Revival or Pandemonium?, Matt Costella, Staff Writer ©FOUNDATION Magazine, March-April 1997)
Kilpatrick said that those who question this outpouring of the spirit are just accustomed to the status quo and are afraid of anything "new" that comes along. He explains: "See, we've become so used to the abnormal that now that the normal has come it seems abnormal." These strange signs, wonders and manifestations are the norm, according to Kilpatrick. (The Brownsville/Pensacola Outpouring. Revival or Pandemonium?, Matt Costella, Staff Writer ©FOUNDATION Magazine, March-April 1997)
Kilpatrick himself seems unsure at times what these supernatural powers are, but he concludes that they must be the "glory of the Lord." He oftentimes describes a phenomenon that occurred either to him personally or to the entire congregation and prefaces it by saying, "I don't know what it was." He then continues by either saying, "I believe it was God," or "I think it was the glory of God." He has no basis for this assumption, but, for some reason, he concludes that these manifestations and feelings are of God even though they can be found nowhere in God's written Word. (The Brownsville/Pensacola Outpouring. Revival or Pandemonium?, Matt Costella, Staff Writer ©FOUNDATION Magazine, March-April 1997)
I would like to note that there was a statement made (by John Kilpatrick) that in these latter days that preaching and simply teaching the word was no longer sufficient, the Spirit had to get involved, through signs and wonders due to the much sin that abounded. This is unscriptural. If I'm not mistaken the Holy Spirit is involved in the preaching, and teaching of the word, and that it was through the foolishness of preaching that men would come to know the Lord (1 Cor 1:18-25). This passage also states that Christ is the power, and wisdom of God. (Robert C. Gray, 1996)
Prophesies against Hank Hanegraaff, the "apology" letter of 6/17/97 and the original message of 4/6/97:
(Kilpatrick Message 4/6/97:) "You're all gonna have to pardon me for being beside myself, but I got a word from the Lord last night."
(Kilpatrick Message 4/6/97:)"If you want to keep any kind of a semblance of a ministry, you better back off from this revival and what God is doing. You better back off, because I'm going to prophesy to you that if you don't, and you continue to put your tongue in your mouth on this move of God, within 90 days the Holy Ghost will bring you down. I said, within 90 days the Holy Ghost will bring you down." (John Kilpatrick gave a message condemning false prophesy. You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Steve Hill Condemns Kilpatrick". This is erroneous as this is not Steve Hill speaking but John Kilpatrick condemning himself.)
(Kilpatrick Message 4/6/97:) "And I want to tell you something else. If you don't want your head to start shaking - you make fun of somebody in the choir shaking [Note: Hank Hanegraaff has never made fun of her, but has repeatedly expressed concern due to the physical and mental problems that can come out of shaking one's head so vigorously for hours at a time for over a year and a half] - come here a minute, girl. Come down here a minute. Hurry up. Hurry up. [Note: Would you want to be spoken to in that way?] If you don't want your head to do like this, you better lay your mouth off of her. I know this girl. She's a godly girl. She's a school teacher, and she lives a godly life."
In John Kilpatrick’s entire sermon not a single Scripture was referenced, the Gospel was not preached, and the bizarre manifestations appeared to be the point of the whole evening. John Kilpatrick’s description of the beginning of the Brownsville revival seemed very similar to the service that I attended. The gospel was not preached (a message was not given according to Kilpatrick), and the evidence that revival had come was not that people were saved, but because people fell down on the floor out of control. (I Experienced the "Pensacola Outpouring" and Came Home Crying Tears and Praying, Shawn Paul Sauve, 1997)
"You need to understand friends, your words are like containers. When they come up out of the innermost part of your belly, out of the heart, the mouth speaketh. As these things come out of your heart, they are spirits, by the time the come out of your mouth, that spirit is encapsulated in some little package and when you begin to speak this stuff out whether it is good or evil, it comes out in the way of little containers in your home and it goes out in your home and it begins to burst. As they burst life is either released or death is released. Blessings are released or cursings are released." (John Kilpatrick, Glory on Your House, 1997)
"Your words contain power. . . . As your words leave your mouth, the "spirit" of what you just said fills the air and begins to rumble around in your home. . . . Like bubbles of air, your words burst and begin to affect the atmosphere. . . . These influences or spirits then move from one person to the next, to the next, and so on ... One day the Holy Spirit showed me my error. From that time on, I began to pray the solution instead of the problem. I began to speak into existence those things that were not. . . . Jacob [in blessing his sons] spoke powerful things that called into being things that were not yet visible." (John Kilpatrick, When the Heavens Are Brass, 109 ... Ibid., 128)
".. I'm speaking prophetically tonight. I rarely do this, but some of you, if you don't come right now, the Lord's gonna put you out to pasture. You have never known a spooky feeling until you've not felt the presence of God. If you don't come in this sixty second period right now, friend listen to me, some of you, you're not gonna hear His voice no more ... you've got sixty seconds to respond to Jesus right now, starting now." (You need Internet Explorer to hear this file. Go to this page, read the instructions, then click on "Sixty Seconds Prophesy" and "Sixty Seconds").
Faith healer and evangelist (decesased), mentor for John Arnott and Benny Hinn.
Benny Hinn recounts a story where an associate of Kathryn Kuhlman told him that Kuhlman "in the earlier days . . . didn’t have any anointing on her compared to what she had when she died." (Benny Hinn, The Anointing. Nashville: Thomas Nelson. 1992. 59.)
The personal account of a doctor who investigated the alleged supernatural healing powers of Kathryn Kuhlman, Norbu Chen, and the Fillipino psychic surgeons. One chapter on each -- includes a number of case examples. The author shows clearly how both suggestion and outright fraud tend to play a role in supernatural healings.(Healing: A Doctor in Search of a Miracle, William A. Nolen 1974, Fawcett; 272p.)
The second event was pentecostal healer Kathryn Kuhlman's audience with Pope Paul. After the meeting, she said, "When I met Pope Paul there was a Oneness." This "oneness" was carried into and through her interdenominational healing services until her death.(Part One Foundations For Apostasy: 1950-1985, Ed Tarkowski)
Dr. Nolan concentrated his efforts on a nationally known faith healer known as Kathryn Kuhlman. She was an ordained minister who had been "healing" about 30 years at that time, and claimed to have treated app. one and one half million patients. Dr. Nolan interview Miss Kuhlman, and secured permission to follow up on the people who attended her services at Minneapolis in June 1973. He used two legal secretaries to secure names, addresses, phone numbers and diagnosis of everyone who was willing to cooperate. In July of 1973 letters were sent by Dr. Nolan requesting those who claimed a "cure" to come to Minneapolis. Twenty three responded. In every case examined by Dr. Nolan there was not found one case of a miraculous cure. Note this quote: "Kathryn Kuhlman's lack of medical sophistication is a critical point. I don't believe she is a liar or a charlatan or that she is, consciously, dishonest. I think that she believes the Holy Spirit works through her to perform miraculous cures. I think that she sincerely believes that the thousands of sick people who come to her services and claim cures are, through her mini-strations being cured of organic diseases. I also think--and my investigation confirms this--that she is wrong." (Quotes and facts are from an article in McCall's 9/74)
Dr. Nolen, in his book Healing, did long-term follow-ups on 23 of Kuhlman's claimed healings. There were no cures among these cases. One woman who was sadi to have been cured of spinal cancer threw away her brace and ran across the stage at Kuhlman's command; her spine collapsed the next day, according to Nolen, and she died four months later. (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.201)
Kathryn Kulhman developed her own explanation for being "slain in the spirit": "All I can believe is that our spiritual beings are not wired for God's full power, and when we plug into that power, we just cannot survive it. We are wired for low voltage; God is high voltage through the Holy Spirit." (Warner, Kathryn Kuhlman, 220)
Among the thousands who tapped into the high voltage flowing through Kuhlman were Richard Roberts, Charles and Frances Hunter (the "Happy Hunters"), ex-priest Francis MacNutt, and a young immigrant named Benedictus ("Benny") Hinn. (Wayne E. Warner, Kathryn Kuhlman (Ann Arbor, MI: Servant Books, 1993), 214-215)
(Benny) Hinn revealed that he periodically visits (Kathryn) Kuhlman's grave (click here for a photo of her grave site) and that he is one of the few with a key to gain access to it. He also visits Aimee (McPherson's) grave (click here for photos of her grave site), where he says: "I felt a terrific anointing ... I was shaking all over ... trembling under the power of God ... `Dear God,' I said, `I feel the anointing.' ... I believe the anointing has lingered over Aimee's body." (Benny Hinn, April 7, 1991 sermon)
(Kathryn Kuhlman as a young woman) meticulously studied (Aimee Semple McPherson) "taking in every movement, every song, every dramatic presentation, every altar call" from the vantage of the Angelus Temple balcony. (Wayne E. Warner, Kathryn Kuhlman (Ann Arbor, MI: Servant Books, 1993), 205)
For much of Kathryn Kuhlman's early ministry, she lived in the shadow of her role model, the most famous woman preacher of all, Aimee Semple McPherson ... although she never met Aimee at the Angelus Temple, "enough of the glitter rubbed off to start her toward her own superstar status." (Wayne E. Warner, Kathryn Kuhlman (Ann Arbor, MI: Servant Books, 1993), 203-205)
Sister Kathryn (had a) flamboyant lifestyle. Not only (did she have a) love for "expensive clothes, precious jewles, luxury hotels, and first class travel," but (she was also married) "to an evangelist, who divorced his wife to marry Kuhlman." (Burgess and McGee, Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, 529-530)
Vim Malgo's conclusion is that it was not the Holy Spirit who was at work (in Kathryn Kuhlman meetings), but other spirits. The so-called baptism of the Spirit is usually a baptism with spirits. Malgo says: "The spirits find one another." In English we have the saying, "Birds of a feather flock together." It is therefore characteristic that Kathryn Kuhlman was one of the main speakers and drew the largest number of hearers. This point has troubled me more and more over the years: Kathryn accepted invitations from wild extremists and stood on the same platform with them. (Kurt Koch, Occult ABC, 1978, p. 118)
There is a long report about Kathryn Kuhlman's appearances in Vancouver and Seattle. Lack of space again compels me to mention only the main points. This observer writes, "Kathryn Kuhlman calls herself an instrument of the Lord. In reality, she is a medium of the lord of this world. A person cannot receive a second birth from the Holy Spirit when someone touches his face and says a few words to him. I believe in the charismata gifts of the Spirit. But what Kathryn Kuhlman displays is not a gift of the Holy Spirit of God, but a gift of the spirits who rule in the air. These spirits make use of her, herself deceived and deceiving others ... She is a medium of Satan." (Kurt Koch, Occult ABC, 1978, p. 118)
(Kathryn Kuhlman:) "You've had cancer in the hip and now your pain is gone. Is that right?" (Man with cancer:) "Yes," (Kathryn Kuhlman:) "Bend over so everyone can see." He bent over. "Walk around." He walked around. "Isn't the Holy Spirit wonderful?" she cried. A sound Of rejoicing went round the hall. Afterward, the doctor inquired of this man. Nothing had changed in his condition. But in Christian circles, the news was spread everywhere that a man in a wheelchair had been healed. (Kurt Koch, Occult ABC, 1978, p. 119)
AIMEE SEMPLE MCPHERSON
Faith healer and evangelist (deceased). Mentor for Benny Hinn.
While the Dictionary of Pentacostal and Charismatic Movements deals with the controversial aspects of "Sister Aimee's" life -- her mysterious disappearances and alleged affairs, multiple marriages (two of which ended in divorce), and death from an apparent drug overdose -- it is strangely silent about her theatrical preoccupation with the slain in the spirit phenomenon. (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997, 168)
(Benny) Hinn revealed that he periodically visits (Kathryn) Kuhlman's grave (click here for a photo of her grave site) and that he is one of the few with a key to gain access to it. He also visits Aimee (McPherson's) grave (click here for photos of her grave site), where he says: "I felt a terrific anointing ... I was shaking all over ... trembling under the power of God ... `Dear God,' I said, `I feel the anointing.' ... I believe the anointing has lingered over Aimee's body." (Benny Hinn, April 7, 1991 sermon)
"The Voice of the Lord spoke tenderly: "Now, child, cease your strivings and your begging; just begin to praise Me ..." All at once my hands and arms began to tremble gently at first, then mor and more, until my whole body was atremble with the power ... Almost without my notice my body slipped gently to the floor, and I was lying under the power of God, but felt as thought caught up and floating." (Aimee Semple McPherson, This Is That (los Angeles: Echo Park Evangelistic Associaton, 1923), 90-91)
"It should be obvious to any man who is not one himself that the land is overrun with messiahs. I refer not to those political quacks who promise in one election to rid the land of evil, but rather to those inspired fakirs who promise to reduce the diaphram or orient the soul through the machinery of occult religion. Each of these has seriously made himself the centre of a new theophany, has surrounded himself with a band of zealous apostles, has hired a hall for a shrine, and has set about busily to rescue Truth from the scaffold and put it on the throne. The average man knows nothing of these new messiahs, unless perchance he reads that Swami Yogananda had been ridden out of Florida or hears of the plans of Aimee Semple McPherson for the Foursquare Gospel Mission, or unless his wife is a Theosophist, his emancipated daughter a member of the Liberal Catholic Church, his aunt a devotee of the School of Silent Unity, and his son a Buchmanite, or unless he receives gratis the literature of the Rosicrucian Fellowship. If, however, he will take the Saturday edition of any metropolitan daily and scan the page devoted to the announcment of religious services, the extent and intensity of these quixotic cults will be clear to him. In the New York Sun for November 20, 1927, announcements were made of over one hundred and forty religious services for the one borough of Manhattan. Of these, fully half had to do with cults and sects of cults bearing no relation to any form of orthodox Christianity." (The Confusion Of Tongues, Chales W. Ferguson, 1927, p. 1)
Aimee Semple McPherson, nationally known healing evangelist in the 1920's - 1930's. Founded and headed the Foursquare Gospel Church, led a controversial life and died of a drug overdose in 1944. She thought that her organization was in fact restoring true Christianity which had been lost over the years. All of these groups initially believed in a restoration of the gifts of the Holy Spirit including prophecy. She is without doubt the most controversial of all the Pentecostal women. She got the baptism in 1907 and soon went with her husband to China, where he died. She came back to the United States and traveled as an evangelist. In 1919 she settled in Los Angeles where she built the Angelus Temple. She served as the pastor of the temple until her death in 1944. She is controversial because she faked her own kidnapping in order to carry on an adulterous affair in 1926. During the outcry against her over this affair she incorporated The International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, which later grew into a large Pentecostal denomination. The Foursquare denomination exists today. Sister Aimee died of a barbiturate overdose in 1944. (The Interactive Bible, 1998)
Bishop and television preacher on TBN.
"That's what we're doing as the five-fold ministry - the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers - is equipping the saints, maturing the Body of Christ. But see, even that frightens us because we say we've got pastors, we've got evangelists - we talk about apostles and prophets, we get afraid. And yet they've got to come back with authority and power. Ephesians 2:20 says the Church is built not on Jesus (a lot of folk don't know that), but it's built on the apostles and prophets, and Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. He's the cornerstone, but the apostles and the ministry of the prophets is [sic] the foundation. What God is doing today is raising up prophets. I don't have any doubt in my mind that Oral Roberts is a prophet to the Church to bring us back to the healings. Many of them - Branham and many others - I believe that the Hagins and the Copelands, we have varying doctrines here, but I believe they brought us back to understanding the power in God's Word. They were apostles toward that. I believe there are other apostles and prophets God is raising up." (Earl Paulk, guest appearance on "Praise The Lord," Trinity Broadcasting Network, March 4, 1986.)
"THE FOURTH ISSUE AT STAKE IS THE TRUE UNITY WITHIN THE BODY OF CHRIST. To build upon anything less than the true Rock, the only lasting foundation, would be only to see the entire building fall. Paul made it clear that the Cornerstone had been 'rejected by the builders.' The only solution was to bring forth new builders - whom Paul defined as apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers - to build up a people fitly joined together whose head is Jesus Christ Himself. We are further given the warnings as to how we build on this foundation. To talk of unity without truth is to build with wood, hay and stubble (I Corinthians 3)." ( Earl Paulk, 'The Betrothed' (Atlanta: K Dimension Publishers, 1985), p.7.)
"The book of Revelation makes it clear that John wrote his letters to the angels of the Church. Who are the angels that God will use? They are ministers called by God to boldly proclaim the Word of God. They will sound the trumpet. One should never separate prophecy of the New Testament from prophetic Old Testament scriptures. The trumpet sounded in the Old Testament as a warning. Today the trumpet sounds from the angels of the Church, God's ministers who cry out, 'It is harvest time!' Witnesses to God's power will shine as never before. God will gather righteous people together to raise up a witness of Jesus Christ and judge the kingdoms of this world." (Earl Paulk, "Thrust in the Sickle and Reap" (Atlanta: K Dimension Publishers, 1986), p.103,104.)
"THE FIFTH FUNCTION OF THE CHURCH IS TO CONQUER THE LAST ENEMY, WHICH IS DEATH, AND TO BRING REDEMPTION TO THE BODY OF CHRIST. When the Apostle Paul says that redemption has not yet taken place, he speaks, I believe, of the redemption of the individual body; yet in my spirit I perceive that he speaks also of the redemption of the Body of Christ. [Boldface Paulk's throughout.] "Jesus Christ Himself overcame death individually, and WHEN THE CHURCH BECOMES SO CONFORMED TO HIS IMAGE THAT THOSE WHO DIE DO NOT PASS THROUGH THE GRAVE, BUT BECOME INSTEAD GLORIOUSLY CHANGED IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE, IT WILL BE THAT CHURCH WHICH WILL BRING THE KINGDOM OF GOD TO PASS ON THE EARTH. [Paulk then quotes Romans 8:18,22-23, and Ephesians 1:13-14.] "We have received the earnest of the EXPECTATION through the baptism of the Holy Spirit, but we must move on to the POSSESSION, which is overcoming the last enemy, death. Sometimes the interpretation has been made that Jesus Christ conquered death, but if that were so, why would Paul's epistle to the Corinthians, written at least ninety years later, say that the last enemy that SHALL be destroyed is death (I Corinthians 15:26)? JESUS CHRIST CONQUERED DEATH INDIVIDUALLY, BUT IT IS LEFT TO THE CHURCH TO CONQUER DEATH ON A CORPORATE BASIS.. "Is it possible that there will be a people who so possess the authority of Almighty God, as Elijah did, that they, as a group, will say to death, hell, and the spirit of Satan, 'We will NOT die. We will stay here and be changed, and we will call Jesus Christ to return to this earth as King of Kings and Lords of Lords'? Yes, that is what I believe the church must do! But it will not be easy, because GOD IS LOOKING FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF A MATURE CHURCH WHO CAN SPEAK WITH THE AUTHORITY JESUS HAD WHEN HE STILLED THE WINDS AND CALLED LAZARUS FORTH FROM THE GRAVE. "An exciting prospect? Oh, yes! We are God's people, called to do the will of God in the world today and to see the King of Glory return to establish His Kingdom on earth! Jesus Christ had the authority to say 'No' to death on earth, and He is waiting for us to come to that same authority He had so we can say, 'The last enemy - death - has been conquered!' [Paulk then quotes I Corinthians 15:20-26.] "Jesus Christ, as the firstfruit of the Kingdom, began the work of conquering death on an individual basis, but we, as His church will be the ones to complete the task. Jesus said (Matthew 28:18), 'All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth,' and the church today has that same power. Death will not be conquered by Jesus returning to the earth. It will be conquered when the church stands up boldly and says, 'We have dominion over the earth!' How else will God be able to show Satan a people for whom death holds no fear, over whom death no longer has any power? When God can do that, Satan's hold on us will be broken forever!" (Earl Paulk, "The Proper Function of the Church" (Atlanta: K Dimension Publishers, undated), p.13.)
God's Frequency is 39.17 Mhz. Peter Popoff Fake Healer and Fraud! See actual video of Popoff in the act of fraud! Why is this fraud still on TV???? Why do many Pentecostals think he is saved and that the Holy Spirit is performing miracles through him?
You can have what you say. (Fred Price, Praise the Lord (TBN), 9/21/90)
You can't glorify God if you are sick. (Fred Price, Is God Glorified Through Sickness?, Tape #FP605)
Man has made God violate His own word. Have a "Rolls Royce" Faith. (Fred Price, Praise the Lord (TBN), 9/21/90)
God has displeasure in poverty. (Fred Price, Ever Increasing Faith, recorded 11/16/90)
Jesus and the disciples were rich, only rich people could take off for 3.5 years. (Fred Price, Ever Increasing Faith, recorded 11/23/90)
"Yes! You are in control! So, if man has control, who no longer has it? God" (Fred Price, "Prayer: Do You Know What Prayer Is...and How to Pray?," The Word Study Bible, 1990. p. 1178).
"Jesus was rich and that He left us with an example to follow. That is why Fred drives a Rolls Royce; he is following Jesus' example!" (Fred Price, An Examination Of The Word-Faith Movement, Richard J. Vincent, 1991)
" ... how can you glorify God in your body, when it doesn't function right? How can you glorify God? How can He get glory when your body doesn't even work? ... What makes you think the Holy Ghost wants to live inside a body where He can't see out through the windows and He can't hear with the ears? What makes you think the Holy Spirit wants to live inside of a physical body where the limbs and the organs and the cells do not function right? ... And what makes you think He wants to live in a temple where He can't see out of the eyes, and He can't walk with the feet, and He can't move with the hand? ... The only eyes that he has that are in the earth realm are the eyes that are in the body. If He can't see out of them then God's gonna be limited ..." (Frederick K.C. Price, "Is God Glorified Through Sickness?" (Los Angeles: Crenshaw Christian Center, n.d.), audiotape #FP605)
Faith healer and founder of Oral Roberts University. (almost deceased if not for 8 million dollars)
Oral Roberts, you may recall, is the man who claimed that Jesus told him God had chosen him to find an effective treatment for cancer. In a lengthy appeal, Roberts avowed that the Lord told him, "I would not have had you and your partners build the 20-story research tower unless I was going to give you a plan that will attack cancer." Roberts then said that Jesus instructed him to tell his partners that "this is not Oral Roberts asking [for the money] but their Lord." The project was completed, but has since been "shut down and sold to a group of investors for commercial development." And no cure for cancer was found. (Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity In Crisis, 1993, pg. 31 citing Russell Chandler, "Talked with Jesus, Evangelist Says", The Los Angeles Times (3 February 1983), 3, 16 and Clark Morphew, "What's to become of Oral Roberts 'City Of Faith?'" St. Paul Pioneer Press (27 June 1992); reprinted in The Christian News (20 July 1992), 2.)
Prosperity teachers are so committed to presenting a Jesus who wears a Rolex that they are willing to do whatever it takes to sell this myth to their parishioners. Oral Roberts, for example, wrote a book titled "How I Learned Jesus Was Not Poor." (Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity In Crisis, 1993, pg. 187)
On January 4, 1987, Roberts launched his most notable campaign to date. Roberts told his followers that if he did not raise a total of 8 million dollars by March, God was going to take his life ... Comparing himelf to the apostle Paul, Roberts begged not to let Satan defeat him. "God" he says, "clearly told me he needs me here on earth. And here's why -- because of all the ministries, this ministry is the only one God has on this earth that owns a medical school." ... Some time later, Oral's son, Richard, took pen in hand to warn of his father's impending doom. Without "the additional $4,500.000." explains Richard, "God will not extend Dad's life" He then pleads, "Partner, we cannot let this man of God die. There is no reason for him to die." ... After sternnly warning, "IF YOU NEGLECT TO PAY ATTENTION ... then Satan will take advantage and hit you with bad things and you will wish that 1985 had never come, " Roberts closed his letter with a hard sell. Sending a seed-faith gift will not only enable you to "STOP SATAN IN HIS HATE TO BRING YOU DOWN," it will also "help you get your hundredfold return." (Roberts raised the money and did not die.) (Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity In Crisis, 1993, pg. 196-198)
(Jesus allegedly) instructed Robert's partners to take (a) picture of Oral and Richard (Roberts) "AND HOLD IT OVER the prayer sheet and your Seed-Faith gift so that the shadow of the picture COVERS THE ENTIRE SHEET." According to Jesus, this "becomes the point of contact for you to loose your faith." (Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity In Crisis, 1993, pg. 204 citing Oral and Richard Roberts, direct-mail letter (August 1984), 2-3 capitalization in original)
(Oral Roberts used the KJV translation of 3 John 2 to say to) his wife, "Evelyn, now this means that we're supposed to prosper" (as Christians). Roberts goes on to recount how, after discovering this verse, God gave him a brand-new Buick. ... Evelyn enthusiastically agreed with Oral that to propser "is God's highest wish for us." (Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity In Crisis, 1993, pg. 223 citing Roberts, "A Daily Guide to Miracles" (Tulsa, OK: Pinoak Press, 1975), 36-38 passim.)
Son Richard, as usual, had to face a press and try to explain his father's atrocious claims (about raising people from the dead). He said that there were "dozens upon dozens upon dozens" of documented cases of such resurrection, and I decided to switch the direction of my inquiries. Knowing full well that a mere healing is nothing compared to a resurrection, I sent this telegram to Oral Roberts on June 30, 1987: "Please provide me with one identifiable case of a resurrection from the dead brought about by Oral Roberts, regardless of the sources of the power used to accomplish this wonder. Since resurrections are not considered commonplace, I will accept documentation of such an event in place of any of the other evidences of healing by Reverend Roberts that I have been seeking." Need I tell you that no response was ever received? (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.195)
Host of the "700 Club" on CBN/TBN.
"God spoke through a word of prophecy in May 1968, and said, ‘I have chosen you to usher in the coming of My Son.’" (Sermon on Satellite Network Seminar, Word of Faith Outreach Center, Dallas, TX, Dec. 9-12, 1984, as cited in "The Freedom Writer," 1986)
Robertson also announced then that the Christian Broadcasting Network will provide worldwide coverage of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ from the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. (Sermon on Satellite Network Seminar, Word of Faith Outreach Center, Dallas, TX, Dec. 9-12, 1984, as cited in "The Freedom Writer," 1986)
"The mission of the Christian Coalition is simple," says Pat Robertson. It is "to mobilize Christians -- one precinct at a time, one community at a time -- until once again we are the head and not the tail, and at the top rather than the bottom of our political system." Robertson predicts that "the Christian Coalition will be the most powerful political force in America by the end of this decade." And, "We have enough votes to run this country...and when the people say, 'We've had enough,' we're going to take over!"-- Pat Robertson (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/quotes.html)
One formal declaration boldly documents the Evangelical and Catholic commitment to work together to evangelize and bring about social reform in the world. The Evangelicals and Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium has, in effect, laid the groundwork for Evangelicals to set aside their distinctive doctrines and unite with the Catholic Church and other religions which are coming together by 2000 A.D. The ECT Document was authored and presented in May of 1994 by Charles Colson of Prison Fellowship and Roman Catholic priest, Richard John Neuhaus. In 1993, Chuck Colson was the recipient of the $1,000,000 "Prize for Progress in Religion," given annually at the Parliament of World Religions by New Age financier, John Templeton. Father Neuhaus is the director of the Institute on Religion and Public Life who, as former Lutheran and a seminary student, rejected the doctrine of justification by faith in Jesus Christ. The ECT Document was signed by 20 Catholic leaders and 20 Evangelical leaders including Dr. Bill Bright of Campus Crusade for Christ, Pat Robertson, President of CBN, J.I. Packer of Christianity Today, Richard Land and Larry Lewis of the Southern Baptist Convention, Jesse Miranda of Assemblies of God, Dr. John White of the National Association of Evangelicals and President of Geneva College, Os Guiness of Trinity Forum and Dr. Mark Noll of Wheaton College. (Tom Barbaho, The United Religions Organization citing "Evangelicals and Catholics Together Document: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium", First Things, (Institute on Religion and Public Life, 156 Fifth Ave., Suite 400, New York, NY 10010), May 1994, p. 12-22. 29 and "Protestants Swear Allegiance to the Pope of Rome," (Living Truth Ministries, 1708 Patterson Rd., Austin, TX 78733)
Conforming to the world rather than the Word, evangelical leaders such as Pat Robertson and Francis Frangipane have called visions of Mary and animated statues "manifestations from God." Frangipane believes that, had the message of Medjugorje to forgive Muslims been obeyed, the war in Bosnia would have been averted. (Tom Barbaho, The United Religions Organization citing "Signs, Wonder, and the Word," Francis Frangipane, River of Life Ministries, August, 1995)
Commenting on the (The Evangelicals and Catholics Together Document or ECT) debate, Pat Robertson said that the dispute over "minor points of doctrinal differences" shouldn't obscure the document's goals. Robertson's political action organization, Christian Coalition, defends his endorsement of ECT because its objective is to fulfill the Church's "responsibility for the right ordering of civil society." (Tom Barbaho, The United Religions Organizaton citing "Catholics and Protestants: Can We Walk Together?," Joe Maxwell, Charisma Magazine, July, 1995, p. 22. and a letter from William H. Miles, Manager, Membership Services, Christian Coalition, March 6, 1996)
Gerry Straub, a former associate of Pat Robertson and his television producer, pointed out that in his book Salvation for Sale the astonishing fact that God seemed able to time miracles to conform with standard television format. God would stop speaking to Pat and stop healing exactly in time with the theme music. He described his former employer's "Word of Knowledge" performance: "There was nothing "mystical" to understand; it was simply "statistical". Robertson's little faith-healing procedure is a charade -- he simply "calls out" an illness and predicts its cure, and with millions of viewers the statistical probabilities are that someone will have the disease named and that they they will naturally recover. People put their faith in the belief that God speaks to Pat. (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.201)
(Gerry) Straub relates a nonmiracle he witnessed while still a believer in the ministry he worked for. He describes Robertson, at the close of a "700 Club" videotaping, shaking hands with members of the studio audience: "He stopped when he reached a man sitting in a wheelchair ... Pat ... laid hands on him as everyone prayed for healing ... at Pat's urging the man stood up. The people cheered as the man took a couple of very shaky, small steps. While everyone applauded God, I feared the man might fall. The next day we showed the nation the miracle (on the "700 Club" broadcast). I simply wanted to know if the old man in the wheelchair was permanently healed by God or if he temporarily thought that he was healed. A few weeks later I had an assistant track down the man's family in order to see if the cure had lasted. He had died 10 days after his visit to [the Christian Broadcasting Netwark]. We reported his "healing" but not his death. (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.201)
(Gerry) Staub sums up his experience with faith-healing in the Robertson ministry with these words: "During my two and a half years at [Christian Broadcasting Network], I never saw one clear-cut, "beyond a shadow of a doubt" type of healing; however, I did see a tremendous amount of faith in healing -- cleverly created, I believe, by Pat Robertson ... The prophet-turned-healer could have been described as prophet-turned-fake for the sake of profit." (James Randi, The Faith Healers, 1989, p.202)
Pastor of Bethesda Church in Liverpool, England - a Toronto "Blessing" church. He claims he has been "drunk in the spirit" for three years straight.
John Scotland shows his contempt for the Bible. Here are his introductory comments about the reading! "I want to read from from Luke chapter 1. Some of you don't think I give readings. Well I was brought up in the Baptist church. Isn’t this pulpit good? Shupdaduoo. We will get to the reading for those that like the reading. I’ve just got to go with the flow. Notice this ladies and gentlemen. If your taking notes. heeheheh. [Obviously no one was taking and he knew it, just more mockery] and for you that have chose this night to check the place out you've chosen the wrong night." See and hear the video clip!
Scotland tells us that these chicken sounds are a manifestation of the Holy Spirit. Such is ridiculous to blame such foolishness on the Holy Spirit. He then interprets it as a "wake-up call". We agree! It is a wake-up call these Pentecostals to come to their senses! "Ok before we take off, clapping, lets get the reading done. Luke, LUKE. (Laughing) Chapter TWOOOOOOO. I tell you what... Lets look at chapter 1. Settle down please, Ladies and Gentlemen! Luke chapter 1 and verse 5. Lets go back to the reading... Luke chapter 1 verse, verse, verse, Chockadodaldoooo. Oh dear, haahah. Luke chapter 1 verse CHOCKADODALDO. For those of you having difficulty with that manifestation like myself... That's a wake up call. Zacharius was in the sanctuary when, ZACHARI. Zacharius was a member of the Dubabupida. Division. service corpse. One day Zacharius was going about his work in the temple Cockadodaldoo. Verse 10. praying, PRAYING!! for I have come to the god has herd your prayer WOW... WOWWWWW. God hears PRAYER! Verse 14 ladies and gentlemen, settle down now, settle down." See and hear the video clip!
John Scotland explains
the manifestation of spiritual drunkenness. He calls it "the gift of offending
people" and refers to it as an "anointing" With absolute certainty, the
Holy Spirit would never cause a man to act as if literally drunk. Drunkenness
is condemned in the Bible! Such behavior makes us wonder if he is
demon possessed, because the source surely is not divine! Offending people
is not a gift from God, For the Holy Spirit condemns offending people:
1 Cor 10:32; 2 Cor 6:3. "You know I . WOWHOO. I’ve been going through
different stages of drunkenness. and the stage I’m at, at the moment is
Slouching. I’ve gone through the hick up stage. I’ve gone through the phase
of heckling the preachers. um. I am a sign and a wonder.When a prophet
told me there was an anointing for me coming pre-1994, I thought great.
But when that anointing came, it came in a package I didn't expect. It
came in a package of offence. I’ve come to the conclusion that my gift
is offending people. what can you do? You know I mean. I think Christians
are to sensitive anyway you know, always winging. but it is a gift. I don’t
need to even say anything. um. I SHOT THE SHERIFF. AND I SHOT THE DEPUTY
TOO! WOW, the sheriff is legalism. and the deputy is religion.(cheering)
Um. that's good isn’t it? that's copyrighted now. you can’t copy it. heheh.
I didn’t ask for this. no I didn’t. The problem was when I came through
the doors November 1994. And the Lord said to me, "What do you want John"?
I said I want to get drunk. I just forgot to tell him how long. Now I don’t
mind being drunk. Its great. But I said to the Lord. I don't like looking
drunk, you know your eyes get blood shot. and he said to me. John, You
see some of think Goddoesn’t talk like that but he’s very, he is a fun
God. Lets get the fun back into church. And he said John, you see the rock
stars on breakfast TV, they always wear sunglasses. so he said get yourself
a pair of sunglasses. I call these glasses glory shades. I’m sure Moses
would have worn them if they had them in the old testament. Whoahhh, Now
hang in please, hang in. fasten your seat belt. we may have a bit of turbulence
tonight. and you might want to run, but hang on in. lets go back to the
reading." See and hear the video clip!
Here is new one! Scotland is led by the Holy Spirit to sound like a bugle playing"charge". While he blames such repulsive behavior on the Holy Spirit, it is nothing more than cheap theatrics. "They had no children for a ...dutututututudododototo (audience responds with charge) verse 14 now settle down ladies and gentleman settle down. And your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son and you are to name him John and will both have great dutututututudododototo (audience responds with charge, this is reapeated many times. Then Scotland returns to the pulpit quite out of breath and says:) Its hard work taking the reading" See and hear the video clip!
Emotionalism, Anti-Intellectual, Anti-doctrine attitude that permeates most of Pentecostalism. [Some Pentecostal groups feel that doctrine is quite important.] "See some of us are saying, I can’t get my head around this. your not supposed to get your head around it. your supposed to get your heart around it. You’ve got PhD "Permanent Head Damage" Listening to too many sermons. For 20 years I’ve preached 3 point sermons. Nobody set free. Now I get drunk and ramble and God offends people to reveal their hearts. I was at another service and I had the bag with my bottles in it. And I staggered to the front, and I am going through my bag looking for my bottles and I know the spirit of God is doing something. And my natural mind is saying get on with the sermon. and the spirit of God is carry on, go with the flow. what do you want? you want religion. you want sermons? Tickle your ears? or do you want the foolishness? Do you want the foolishness of the holy spirit to come in? In Power. Isn't it great to shout in church. Isn’t it? Its great, you know all these years, you've been told. When you walk into church SHHH. SHHH. you might wake god up." See and hear the video clip!
LEGALISM: Scotland’s revelation contradicts his own Bible reading 3 minutes later! Pentecostals generally feel that Legalism is heresy. Yet Zecharius was praised for being a legalist: "careful to carry out God’s laws in spirit and letter." To some Pentecostals, being anti-legalistic means that they can throw out the need to follow the Bible! "I shot the sheriff! And I shot the deputy too! WOW the sheriff is legalism. And the deputy is religion. [5 minutes later he quoted from Luke 1] Zacharius and Elizabeth were godly folk. Careful to carry Gods laws in spirit and in letter." See and hear the video clip!
Reveling, drinking parties condoned. This incredible clip speaks for itself. Notice that jab against non-Pentecostal churches being equated with Joy Killers! For Scotland to claim that God upheld a wicked drinking party as a model for "how to party" is blasphemous! Even the slightest spiritual discernment can see the evil in John Scotland. But remember, 3000 people were in attendance and millions of Pentecostals all over the world view the Toronto Blessing as a movement from God. This should remove all doubt! "Isn’t it great to shout in church? It is isn't it? Its great its you know. All these years you’ve been told when you walk into church. SHHH. SHHH you might wake god up. Ladies and gentle men. The Angels are serving wine. There serving wine as I speak. There bringing, bringing. BIG barrels. The party has just BEGAAAAN. A couple of years ago. 2 years ago, A couple was living together. and there daughter died of cancer at 23. I think she was. 6 months before she died. he walked up and asked me, can I use the church hall to throw a party for my daughter. what was I to do? I said Yes. They were an ungodly family. and the along with the party they wanted drink. and the lord said go along, let them drink. and they invited me to the party and gee. and it was about 1 am and the party had just beguuuuun. and the disco was playing. and they had this machine that puffed out smoke and flashing lights and I sat there in the party and the place was heaving. and you know what the lord said to me? he said, John this is how you party. This is how you party. I’ve been to church for 20 odd years. Looking at your watch wondering when the preacher was going to finish. Church were only just learning how to party. you know we were never invited to parties. because we were joy killers. yeah. yeah. JOY KILLERS! Now we get invited all the time. Jesus said I’ve come to give you life. LIFE! LIFE! and that more abundantly." See and hear the video clip!
Use of secular music in his performance. Scotland quoted more from secular rock bands more than the Bible. Apart from the 14 verses in the Luke 1 reading, (a reading that had no relevance, nor did he make any spiritual application) He quoted the Bible only one other time, yet he quoted these rock stars 4 times! "Strawberry fields forever." "the party has only just begggaaaaann." "All we need is love. All we need is love." "I shot the sheriff. And I shot the deputy to." See and hear the video clip!
Vision of the dead churches: Scotland claims this vision came from God. What spiritual value is there in a bishops daughter crawling as a drunken harlot down the street? This vision is certainly not from God! see Col 2:18 "taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind". "When I was in Norway I had a vision and they had a big tent and they had a service called blow up the church. Started at 11:30 P.M. went on till 3:30 A.M. people drunk in the spirit. bishops daughter crawling in the street. That night I had problems, I vomited 3 times. God said as your vomiting that's how I feel about the luke warmchurch. that's my job to blow up the church. isn’t it great to shout in church? no, its great isn't it? All these years you’ve been told when you walk into church. SHHH.SHHH you might wake god up." See and hear the video clip!
Spiritual supremacists! This little clip reveals the true attitude that most Pentecostals feel about non-charismatic churches who follow God’s command to "do all things decently and in order" 1 Cor 14:40. It is quite common for Pentecostals to refer to non-charismatic churches that do not speak in tongues, "dead churches" or "spiritless churches". see this link also: Pentecostals are spiritual elitists "Isn’t it great to shout in church? no, its great isn't it? All these years you’ve been told when you walk into church. SHHH. SHHH you might wake god up." See and hear the video clip!
This is the text of his official testimony on the TACF web site: "I had a mighty power encounter with God. I've been intoxicated -- completely drunk with the Holy Spirit. He's a person, and he's so wonderful. When I was baptized in the Holy Spirit some 20 years ago, it made Jesus real to me. This move has made the Holy Spirit and the Father's heart real. It has completely turned us around as a church. It's given us a real hunger for souls, a love for people, and a desire to be relevant to the community where we live -- to show them the love of God. All the programs in our church have gone out the window and all my plans have completely changed. Now they're not mine. They're God's plans. He only gives them to me a step at a time." (John Scotland, Pastor, Bethesda Church, Liverpool, England) Is it "God's plan" for John Scotland to be "drunk" for three years straight? Was it "God's plan" for their church to pattern their worship after a drunken wedding party held there, as Scotland relates in his TACF "message"? Maybe it would be a good idea to actually read the Bible instead of crowing like a rooster and annoying people.
Telemoneymaker formerly on TBN, currently residing in the "where is he now" file.
Being poor is a sin. (Robert Tilton, Success in Life, recorded 12/2/90)
Forget your church. (Robert Tilton, Success in Life, recorded 3/4/91)
The only time people were poor in the Bible is when they were under a curse. (Robert Tilton, Success in Life, recorded 12/2/90)
Do not say "Lord if it be thy will". (Robert Tilton, Success in Life, recorded 12/14/91)
When ABC profiled Tilton his Success-N-Life broadcast was in all 235 U.S. markets, buying 5,000 hours per month of airtime, and pulling in at least $84 million per year. Tilton's distinctive pitch was the $1,000 "vow of faith," for which he promised innumerable miracles and blessings from God. He also sent mountains of sanctified trinkets to his mailing list, promising to personally touch and pray over such items if they were returned with a donation. Then Prime Time revealed that thousands of Tilton-bound prayer requests had been dumped in the trash behind his Tulsa bank -- with the money gone and no sign that he had ever laid a finger on them. His ministry collapsed. Now, nearly three years later, Tilton is completely off the air. He divorced his wife, Marte, and sold both his waterfront mansion in Florida and his 12,000 square-foot Dallas "parsonage." Sunday attendance at his once-thriving Word of Faith Family Church has dropped from some 5,000 members to an average of 320. Tilton laid off 70 percent of his Dallas staff, leaving 32 at a ministry that once employed over 800. Prime Time unleashed a legal storm, and Tilton has been on the receiving end of more than 10 lawsuits and assorted government investigations. On March 16 a judge dismissed Tilton's civil-rights suit against ABC-TV, Diane Sawyer, and other perceived Tilton enemies (he later refiled, repositioning it as a federal racketeering suit). On April 21 a Dallas jury ordered Tilton to pay $1.5 million to former supporters Vivian and Mike Elliott of Tampa, Florida for fraud, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and conspiracy. Tilton is desperately attempting a comeback from the bottom up as an itinerant evangelist, visiting small, obscure churches that still support him. (Christian Research Institute)
Originator of the Vineyard Movement from which sprang the "Toronto Blessing", and author of numerous books including "Power Evangelism". (deceased)
Founder of the Vineyard churches. Prior to the ministry, he was manager of the pop singing group, The Righteous Brothers, he chose to go into ministry, into the Quaker church. As time went on, he pulled a group of people together, and unilaterally announced formation of a church with himself as pastor. He formed this church under the umbrella of the Calvary Chapel churches in California, but a few years later, took his church, and several others out to form his own denomination, the Vineyard. His theology appears to have consisted of: (1) "New Breed"/Manifest Sons of God (See note 25). (2) Joel's Army : We are to conquer the world as the manifested sons of God (i.e. in our glorified bodies) to bring in the Millennium.(3) Dominion/Kingdom Now theology (4) Opposed to testing manifestations by scripture (5) Believed in the "corporate Christ". (Christ is not required during the millennium since we are Christ (the body thereof)). Christ needs us, because without his body he is incomplete. (6) Accepted use of relics for healing. (per Roman Catholic Church). (7) Paradigm Shift: A shift in the way that Christians think from a rationalistic view, to an approach where doctrine is developed using experiential approach. (8) Claimed (along with C. Peter Wagner) that the Laughter Movement is the "Third Wave", the Reformation being the first and the Charismatic Renewal being the second. (The Interactive Bible, 1998)
"There is no place in the Bible where people were lined up and Jesus or Paul or anyone else went along and bapped them on the head and watched them go down, one after another, and somebody else ran along behind. Can you picture Peter and James -- "Hold it, hold it, hold it!" -- running along behind trying to catch them? And so the model that we're seeing, either on stage or on television, is totally different from anything that's in Scripture." (John Wimber, "Spiritual Phenomena: Slain In The Spirit -- Part 1," Vineyard Christian Fellowship, Anaheim, CA, 1981, audiotape) John Wimber subsequently said: 'There's nothing in Scripture that supports these kinds of phenomena that I can see, and I can't think of anything throughout the church age that would,' Wimber writes. 'So I feel no obligation to try to explain it. It's just phenomena. It's just people responding to God.'" (Holy Laughter, Albert James Dager, 1996) Now John Wimber ... claims to have found ample validation for this phenomenon (weird revival manifestations) in Scripture, church history, and his own experiences. (Counterfeit Revival, Hank Hanegraaff, 1997, pg. 15-16)
On Calvary Chapel: "Calvaryites are sometimes a little too heavily oriented to the written Word." (John Wimber, "Healing: An Introductions," (audiotape no. 5) and "Church Planting Semnar," as quoted in Stephen F. Cannon, "Kansas City Fellowship Revisited")
"So in 1978 I left the Charles E. Fuller Institute of Evangelism and Church Growth to become pastor of what is now called the Vineyard Christian Fellowship of Anaheim, California. It was in this environment, a small group of fifty people, that "I first tested my theories of power evangelism." Note that John Wimber, the pragmatist, admits he was testing his theories, not expounding the Scriptures. Wimber continues this dangerous practice even to this day. He is continually trying to find out "what works" in the realm of healing, prophetic messages, casting out demons, etc., so that he can then teach it to others. Pragmatism is the exact opposite of faith. Pragmatism says, "If it works, I'll accept and believe it." Faith says, "What I accept and believe is based entirely upon God's written Word, the Bible." (Commenting on John Wimbers theories of "Power Evangelism", False Prophets...Pseudo Apostles, & A New Gospel, Fundamental Evangelistic Association, 1996)
"In the final chapters I address the implications of power evangelism for conservative evangelicalism, Pentecostalism and the charismatic renewal in mainline denominations and the Roman Catholic Church. Though I write about power evangelism, the most powerful evangelism will come only when Jesus' prayer for Christian unity is fulfilled." The eventual unity of this incredible doctrinal diversity is a recurring theme found in the supposed prophecies coming out of the Third Wave. Could God possibly be the Author of any form of ecumenism where fidelity to the doctrinal Truth of the Word is abandoned? Absolutely not! (Commenting on John Wimbers theories of "Power Evangelism", False Prophets...Pseudo Apostles, & A New Gospel, Fundamental Evangelistic Association, 1996)
"The face of evangelicalism is changing and it is changing quickly. Fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals who are noncharismatic no longer can afford to ignore the first two waves of the Holy Spirit in this century. They are surrounded.... The fundamentalists, have insulated themselves from and charismatics. Most fundamentalists (though not all) stand outside of the first two great waves of the Holy Spirit, holding on to fifty-year old criticisms of Pentecostal excesses. As the move of the Holy Spirit grows around them, I believe many of them could become more vocal in their opposition to Pentecostals and charismatics, while some will be anointed and transformed." (John Wimbers on the "Third Wave", False Prophets...Pseudo Apostles, & A New Gospel, Fundamental Evangelistic Association, 1996)
"He holds a radical Arminianism (some might well argue it is Pelagianism). Wimber seems to have little or no appreciation of the doctrine of the Fall and speaks of being involved in "restoring the Edenic state" in and through his ministry." (Assessing the Wimber Phenomenon, Dr. Don Lewis)
(Wimber's claim) that the phenomena associated with Christ's appearance to Paul on the road to Damascus are common is patently false. While he attmepts to bolster his position through anecdotes -- such as his story that Christ appeared to prophet Paul Cain on the road to Santa Maria -- there is no evidence to validate his claims ... one wonders how many of Wimber's devotees would line up to experience the slain in the spirit phenomenon if they truly believed that there was a chance that they, like (Apostle) Paul, would end up blinded for three days. (Hank Hanegraaff, Counterfeit Revival, 1997 citing John Wimber, "Speaking on Paul Cain and the Office of the Prophet," Vineyard Christian Fellowship, Anaheim, CA, 2/19/89, audiotape.)
See this article for many more quotes by Wimber: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/hiebert.html
Compiled by Deception In The Church, 1997
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